Posts by saywhat29

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A terrible situation, I need all the help I can get

by lola28 in

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i dont know if ive posted this before but here it goes.

my sisters step dad has a nice who well call roxy for now, ive known this kid since she was two and she and my sister grew up together.

roxys mom is a walking disaster; she has five kids all by different fathers (has had at least two abortions), has never worked a day in her life and im pretty sure she does drugs, and probably sells them too, however i cant prove it.

saywhat29

Is it too late for an abortion? If she is willing to do it? I don't know how the 15 year old feels about that or how you all do, but in that situation, I have no idea. I think your family has to stop protecting her because she obviously isn't feeling the brunt of being a single mother if she can just drop those kids off any time at your home where she knows they will be cared for and protected.

You may love this girl, but I believe she is taking advantage out of all of you and she's had a great teacher to show her how. Her mother allowed someone else to raise her child and when she wanted her back, just took her like it was nothing, not caring about her well-being, not caring about anything else, just her own needs. And if you look at the actions of 'Roxy' they are kinda similar are they not?

You have to break ties with this family. Its' hard and its even harder when you're attached to this child the way you are. Because the only other option you have is to take her to court and fight for custody and that is an uphill battle right there against the rights of a natural mother-- and you're going to pay the cost of it too. But if you're amily is too attached to 'nate' then I would consider it; just realized its Nate and now 2 other children.

But one thing your family has to do is stop allowing Roxy to control your lives like this. I wouldn't return her phone calls, I wouldn't help her out at all until she did exactly what you wanted if she is getting money from you; mainly get on friggin' birth control and get an education or attend a trade school. She's using these kids as anchors- you can't say no to her even though you want to becaause of the kids... and she knows this. She doesn't call her mother and ask for that crap nor her siblings. She calls you all. Well, if you consider her family then its time miss thing has an intervention. You need to stay firm and let her know whats up or else you will be stuck in this cycle over and over again.

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How the Internet Means 'The End' for Apostates and Opposers of the Society

by slimboyfat in

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the received wisdom is that the internet has dramatically damaged the ability of the watchtower society to gain and retain followers.

there was a very eloquent article to that effect written some time ago by a commentator who attempted to buttress his argument with reference to the postmodern condition and the breakdown of metanarratives in todays secular society, nay, even the come-back for enlightenment notions of truth.

in the 1970/80s there were major challenges to the watchtowers theology (great crowd in heaven) and chronology (1914) in norway, alberta canada, dublin ireland and in the newyork bethel itself: but the damage caused by those involved in the dissent was limited because knowledge was dispersed merely through personal contact and minimal use of obscure publications that seldom met the eyes of witnesses innocent of the watchtowers doctrinal and chronological vacillations in any case.

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Hey everyone, just checking in and looked at this thread and found it very thought-provoking. Reading everyone's response I have to say that only time will tell. Honestly, teh_evil apostates have done a great job in getting out information about the WTS and its bullshit. If you enter "Jehovah's Witness" in a search, this place pops up for heaven's sake along with FreeMinds, Jwfacts, and Silent Lambs.

And I have to say the internet saved me a lot because when I was having my own issues with the JWs and the belief system I turned to the anonymity of the internet for support, one of the greatest advantages of the blasted thing. I then learned the truth about 'da troof' and freed myself of the mental shackles of any deity, especially the WTS' version of Sky Daddy.

BUT. That doesn't change the fact that the Internet also offers Apologists and Witnesses places to congregate with each other and I have to say that rarely are any minds open before they are 'ready' to. If a person sees flaws within their belief system then chances are they will be more open to reading apostate material and hearing some form of opposition to teh_society. If they are not and they believe it hook, line, and sinker, they will ignore anything you have to say, label you an apostate and ignore anything reasonable point you make. Read Youtube comments (if you can stand to) and see for yourself. They watch the videos..and afterwards tell you how

"jehover will make you pay for this!!!!.... Apostate, turn back before it's to late!... Stop trying to destoy meh faith!!1 You should b ashamed of urself!'

You can spell it out for them, post links, break it down bullet point by bullet point but witnesses still post they same ol same old.

Myself, when I was younger I remember coming to these boards, being an apologist/lurker, and arguing with "angry apostates" about all the good witnesses have done... and how they were twisting things around!!! Liars!! I was also 14 I believe. Not ready. But I remember reading about 1914 and thinking they were just harping on that date to make witnesses look bad unaware of how important that date was to my own belief system..and in my little mind knew the WTS was right and the bad stupid internet peepul were wrong.

I think the internet is a perfect tool for giving support to Witnesses since, well it's easy to feel alone when you are disfelowshipped, questioning, or fading. But all the information that is out there that damns them can be read by a believer and if they aren't open they can ignore it- worst they can find some apologist to twist everything out there to make the Watchtower seem right again, and go on there merry little way in their little bubble.

It's a great tool but it's also a great tool for them as well. I don't agree with Slimboy's premise that it means the end for apostates though.

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What kind of women do men want?

by semelcred in

i ve just read the blog asking what sort of man a woman wants!

i am fed up in this world that men don't stand up and start letting the sisters in the world know what we really need.

lets take the game to them!!.

saywhat29

I want a girl I can go shopping with- a girl I can el oh el while we sip hard liquor. A girl who will laugh at poop and fart jokes and burp like its nothing.

A girl I can check out guys with and comment as to what we would do to them. A girl I can cry with when he leaves and eat cake with. A girl who will tell me I'm all muscle and that I'm not at all puffy or fat and I'll do the same for her. Someone who will re-enact Beyonce and lady Gaga's 'Telephone' with while wearing horrible neon colored wigs.

Thats the kind of girl i want.

if she's rich that's a bonus.

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What JW catch phrase DRIVES YOU NUTS!!!!

by megaflower in

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"we should be mindful".

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

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"This assembly was the best one yet. I feel so refreshed."

Even when I belived it all I could ever think in my head was, "IT WAS THE SAME THING AS LAST YEAR! YOU KNOW THAT, RIGHT?

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Rush Limbaugh in Hospital in Serious Condition

by RubaDub in

just saw the newsflash on cnn (10:30 est wed 30 dec 2009).

seems he had serious chest pains while playing golf in hawaii and was rushed to the hospital.

not sure where the "serious condition" part came from but that's what was reported.. even those of us who disagree with most of what he says wish him no harm and a speedy recovery.. however, when you are that full of shit, it takes a toll on your body.. rub a dub.

saywhat29

MrsJones5, I agree with you and you know its something to admit that his fans have cracked a smile or two or laughed at racial humor before and I can understand that whitefolks have ideas that can be mildly entertaining about race (because blackfolk surely have tons about others) but it's how he goes about it that lets you know its hate.

So you're dead on about him being a racist and even more dead on about the folks who defend his racism. At least own what he said and don't try to sit there and tell the rest of us we're just hearing things...

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Rush Limbaugh in Hospital in Serious Condition

by RubaDub in

just saw the newsflash on cnn (10:30 est wed 30 dec 2009).

seems he had serious chest pains while playing golf in hawaii and was rushed to the hospital.

not sure where the "serious condition" part came from but that's what was reported.. even those of us who disagree with most of what he says wish him no harm and a speedy recovery.. however, when you are that full of shit, it takes a toll on your body.. rub a dub.

saywhat29

Yeah don't expect many people to give a damn about Rush as he's earned the animosity of many. And to CoCal- thats absolute bull about 'anything a white man says is racist' when said white man has SAID RACIST THINGS REPEATEDLY! Are you just blind to what was posted? You asked for proof and it was provided to you and you completely ignore it? Huh. Oh well.

Yeaaah. Um. I don't wish death on people but there are people I'd rather seeing breathing than that asshole. And its funny how people can easily ignore what he says because it 'gets left-wing jackoffs riled up' allthewhile ignoring why which lets you know where there mindsets are as well.

I don't like like wishing death upon people but he's a hateful racist homophobic lying piece of shit. Nuff said.

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Which gender is superior?

by John Doe in

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i think it's obvious that the answer must weigh in favor of the more humble gender.

and what's more humble that posing a question with an obvious answer for the sake of letting the weaker gender feel better about themselves?

therefore, "male" is the obvious answer.

saywhat29

Women?

Whats...*scratches head* What's that?

You mean my mom? Those things? I guess they are okay.

I hear they don't have a penis though so I wonder how do they, like, survive and stuff.

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List of Prominent JW Urban Legends...

by Tuesday in

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hey folks,.

i'm wondering if you all could help me with my next video that i want to put up in the next couple of days (though i'm hoping for tonight), i want to come up with a list of the most prominent urban legends surrounding jws and then refute them whatever they may be.. i'm thinking there's the urban legend about the question on jeopardy that said the nwt was the most accurate would be a good one.

that one stems from an online powerpoint presentation named theological jeopardy and a book which was written comparing six different translations of the bible.

saywhat29

I can't believe no one has mentioned the ring Urban Legend.

JW legend has it that there was this couple that had been studying off and on with Jws. They were going through hardships (and it just dawned on me that JWs love the word hardships where you will hardly hear said word anywhere else) when they started studying with witnesses. Since they weren't baptized they did not have Jehovah's protection... and sadly the demons were inside of their home trying to discourage them from learning the truth!- moving things, screaming in the middle of the night, invisible forces pushing them, etc.

One day the couple informed the witnesses of what was happening to them and God's Faithful Servints (tm) told the couple to go through their home and find any and everything that was wicked and evil. The couple did a quick cleaning of their home and got rid of anything relating to other religions and the occult.

But sadly the couple were still being attacked- and now even worse! The Witnesses asked them to think of anything else in ther home that may have come from a wicked person that may allow the demons to attack them. had they been to any garage sales lately? had they borrowed Grandma's quilt with that large crucifix on it?

The wife then remembered that her Wedding Ring had been purchased by a woman that was known to be heavily involved with the occult in the area. At last, they had discovered the evil item! The husband took the wife's wedding ring, drove it by a nearby bridge and hurled it into the lake!

Finally, they were free from Satan's influence! The following day, though, the husband and wife awakened to noise coming from their bathroom. Shaken up a bit they entered the porcelein throneroom to see there cabinet shaking about. When they opened the cabinet, they screamed finding the wife's wedding band- the one the husband had thrown in the lake the night before sitting right there! The jewel in the ring even glowed back at them, like an evil "F*&% You! hahahahahahaa!"

Art once they called the Witnesses who came to their aid (obviously it wasn't a meeting night or else they would have been stuck with the Flying EvilRing... maybe this happened on Saturday night?) and with the help of the elders, the couple set the evil ring on fire!

The demonic ring burned slowly and turned the fire into a demonic-unnatural- green flame (I'm thinking Jungle Green but some people say it was Seaweed Green... who knows what color demons turn when you set them on fire). Deep gut wrenching screams could be heard around them as the ring slowly burnt in the fire blessed by Jehovah!

Afterward the couple were so moved and convinced by the Jehovah's Witness, they asked for the elder's to baptized them outside in ther daughter's kiddie pool. And they are faithful to this very day...

We don't know who they are or where they are... but I'm pretty sure they are faithful to this very day...

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You guys would understand: How do you do this Festivus/Christmas crap

by saywhat29 in

okay so i try to explain this to 'wordly' people and they just blink but i still do not get this christmas stuff.

at work i have managers and coworkers who got me gifts and i'm trying to think if i should get them gifts as well.

do i get the people who gave me a gift a gift?

saywhat29

Well, seeing as I am GAY (I'm glad you capitalized the word since it describes my gay in the awesomeness in which it is)

Its not difficult to buy stuff for people but I just wanna know the limits- if you get me something and its way more expensive than what I bought you if that a problem and do folks usually hold it against you? I buy you an expensive watch you get a tie that was on sale at Target.. is that a problem and will it affects my gift next year? ;-)

I don't feel as though this holiday is going to absorb me as all that decorating crap is work and on a holiday I wanna relax... but maybe. if I end up with some guy whose big on it and he's doing all the major stuff then I'll go along with it.

But otherwise *shrugs*

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You guys would understand: How do you do this Festivus/Christmas crap

by saywhat29 in

okay so i try to explain this to 'wordly' people and they just blink but i still do not get this christmas stuff.

at work i have managers and coworkers who got me gifts and i'm trying to think if i should get them gifts as well.

do i get the people who gave me a gift a gift?

saywhat29

LOL, elsewhere thats what I usually do but the women around me say how cheap and unfun that bag is compared to a wrapped one.