Yeah, jwdaughter, they have lots of money and with that they can buy some time. But their recruitment and retention efforts are losing steam, at least in many industrialized countries. And even encouraging a high birth rate will take since they've discouraged kids for so long.
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Is the FDS losing control?
by Hermano ini believe there is growing unrest amongst jws.
they may not be very cohesive or organized, but the rigorous demands for obedience coming from the leadership and the unbending, never ending list of rules, not to mention the end that has been ever so-close for so long yet never climaxes, has a lot of jws frustrated.. don't get me wrong.
i know there are some jws that will hang in there no matter what they're told to do and will obey without question.
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Is the FDS losing control?
by Hermano ini believe there is growing unrest amongst jws.
they may not be very cohesive or organized, but the rigorous demands for obedience coming from the leadership and the unbending, never ending list of rules, not to mention the end that has been ever so-close for so long yet never climaxes, has a lot of jws frustrated.. don't get me wrong.
i know there are some jws that will hang in there no matter what they're told to do and will obey without question.
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Gotta have hope, dontplaceliterature.
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Is the FDS losing control?
by Hermano ini believe there is growing unrest amongst jws.
they may not be very cohesive or organized, but the rigorous demands for obedience coming from the leadership and the unbending, never ending list of rules, not to mention the end that has been ever so-close for so long yet never climaxes, has a lot of jws frustrated.. don't get me wrong.
i know there are some jws that will hang in there no matter what they're told to do and will obey without question.
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I believe there is growing unrest amongst JWs. They may not be very cohesive or organized, but the rigorous demands for obedience coming from the leadership and the unbending, never ending list of rules, not to mention the end that has been ever so-close for so long yet never climaxes, has a lot of JWs frustrated.
Don't get me wrong. I know there are some JWs that will hang in there no matter what they're told to do and will obey without question. But a great many of them are not falling for it. They havent forgotten the Boreans who did not ACCEPT WITHOUT QUESTION the things they heard. On the contrary, they “carefully [examined] the Scriptures daily as to whether these things [they were learning] were so.”—Acts 17:11.
Just one example of this, how many times have JWs been told NOT to put up their own websites because there's already and official Jehovah's Witness website? And yet there are some JWs that go ahead and do it anyway.
Those of you that still go to meetings or have contact with active JWs, what ways have you noticed JWs not obeying what they're told? I look forward to your observations.
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How important are birthdays?
by Disillusioned Lost-Lamb inextremely, cause it's mine!.
go shorty it's my birthday.
gonna party like it's my birthday.
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Happy Birthday!
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Woman jumps into pool during Long Beach DC!
by puffthedragon inhttp://youtu.be/dht3cedgg6e.
watch the right hand side of the screen.. .
i am trying to imbed it but can't make it work.
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OMG, That is hilarious. She's my hero.
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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I used to be a 'moderate JW.' Now I'm a 'moderate heretic.'
Sounds like a success story, AnnOMaly. Perhaps for many "moderate" is the way out. If so, wouldn't it makes sense to foster "moderate" JWs?
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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The situation then and the one now are very different and it would take more than one strong personality and few supporters to do what Rutherford did at that time.
Thanks for the feedback, blondie. Maybe with the sexual abuse scandal and the slow growth rate conditions will be conducive to change again? Even if the leadership will not tolerate change, perhaps it could lead to an increase in exodus or a high level operative (such as Raymond Franz) leaving and further exposing what's going on in the tower.
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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it appears this is more of a one-man "soap box" initiative than a broad-based call for reform by a multitude of conscientious JWs
Room 215, There is a petition with some "signatures." Every movement's got to start somewhere.
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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My young Sister and her Husband (20 and 23yrs old) are fake/very moderate witlesses, they celebrate birthdays and xmas with my other sister who is no longer active. They regularly drink to excess, have only worldly friends and swear like troopers.
They disagree with a number of doctrines yet still they stay in, getting to most meetings, minimum preaching effort and also giving talks.
My Sis is trying to make Mum and Dad happy and is still afraid of armaggedon. My Bro in law has no family 'in' anymore and doesnt believe that only JWs will get through armageddon.
They are still stuck in the stupid cult but at least they have started to move away from it by their actions.
Excellent Jemba. I'll take that as oppose to an ubber Witness any day.
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Website by MODERATE JWs who recognize issues with the religion
by Hermano infound this website this weekend by jws who recognize there are issues within the organization and are calling for change.
this is the type of forum moderate jws needs, imho.
glad to see moderate jws are out there and are doing something.. http://www.jwreform.org/.
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Maybe the reform site could be a start for some dipping a toe in the waters of the Internet
That's a good idea Phizzy. This site is great, but it may scare some away. The reform site might just open up their eyes enough to start searching for answers.