Posts by nvrgnbk

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Wikipedia being abused by Jehovahs Witnesses

by Simon in

i had a look at the wikipedia entry for jehovahs witnesses yesterday and noticed that it wasn't as comprehensive as it once was.. most links to non-pro-jw sites have gone as is anything truly critical or exposing of their beliefs and practices.. last night i added a link to this site to the "other sources" section.

this morning it is gone.. i wonder whether this is some private zealot who has decided to do it or an organised campaign?.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah%27s_witnesses.

nvrgnbk

Hello all,

I see I'm really late to this party. You guys are not seeing the forest for the trees.IMHO. I respect your vigilance regarding this irritating issue. But remember, people are not begging for Bible studies with the dubs because of what they're reading on WikiWiki. The reality of the matter is:

Jehovah's Witnesses are irrelevant. They are a non-factor in human society, just one more in a long line of post-millenial Protestant groups. They are far less consequential as an organization than they are indoctrinated to believe by their leadership.
Having said that, the org. has affected thousands who have, due to parental upbringing, savvy recruitment campaigns, etc. found themselves involved in a high-control group difficult to exit. For that reason, JWD exists.

In all humility and deference to those of you who've been fighting the good fight for so long now, let these scared idiot Witness apologists lie and deceive all they want. Keep doing what you do best- running and contributing to the best ex-JW board out there. Please forgive me if these comments appear in any way to be presumptuous. Just offering a fresh perspective.

Thanks for all that all of you do,

Nvr

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Is my understanding correct?

by Doug Mason in

is my understanding correct?

1. to arrive at 1874 for christs parousia, ctr employed time parallels from the scriptures and measurements from the great pyramid.

2. ctr used a 2520-year timeframe to arrive at october 1914 for the end of the gentile times.

nvrgnbk

I asked an elder friend about 1799. Of course, he never heard about it. And I'm convinced he also doesn't care to hear about it.

Nvr

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My aunt just died.

by Stealth453 in

i was informed by a forwarded e-mail that my mother's sister was taken off life support today, and passed away at 11 am.

cancer.

the problem i have with all of this is this..... i have no idea who she is.

nvrgnbk

I'm so sorry Stealth! Isn't this religion so messed up?!? Just moments ago I posted the following on the CULT thread:

Great synopsis OTWO:
And they do not live in communes, isolating themselves from relatives and others.
"Isolate" means different things. They are too busy to waste time with "worldly" family, but they don't move to a compound, yet.
I consider my parents somewhat reasonable and open-minded, all things considered. Yet, I have lost all contact with my extended family, none of whom are Witnesses. I wouldn't even know how to contact any of them.
I asked my mother for my uncle's #(he left the org. many,many moons ago when he was a teenager) and she will not give it to me(she tells my brother, another ex-elder, that I'm a goner). I think it's laughable.
Nvr

Looks like this is the norm.

Hang in there friend. We're all gonna get through this together.

Once again, sorry for your loss,

Nvr

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Cults

by darth frosty in

i was just watching the repeat of the history channel cults program.

needless to say a lot of the cults they talked about and their beliefs reminded me of the dubs to an extent.

but, it got me to thinking...has the wt$ ever featured an article on cults and recognizing them?

nvrgnbk

Great synopsis OTWO:

And they do not live in communes, isolating themselves from relatives and others.
"Isolate" means different things. They are too busy to waste time with "worldly" family, but they don't move to a compound, yet.

I consider my parents somewhat reasonable and open-minded, all things considered. Yet, I have lost all contact with my extended family, none of whom are Witnesses. I wouldn't even know how to contact any of them.

I asked my mother for my uncle's #(he left the org. many,many moons ago when he was a teenager) and she will not give it to me(she tells my brother, another ex-elder, that I'm a goner). I think it's laughable.

Nvr

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Cults

by darth frosty in

i was just watching the repeat of the history channel cults program.

needless to say a lot of the cults they talked about and their beliefs reminded me of the dubs to an extent.

but, it got me to thinking...has the wt$ ever featured an article on cults and recognizing them?

nvrgnbk

Thanks OTWO. After examining what the org. itself has to say on the matter, my viewpoint has changed somewhat.

If they say they're not a cult, then they're not a cult. That's enough for me. I'm convinced.

Nvr

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Specific banned shows, songs, etc...?

by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

i know the society tells people not to listen to rock n roll cause its from teh satan, not to watch r rated movies because they're "worldly", etc.

but i was wondering if folks had any specific instances where one song, one show, one movie, or whatever was singled out as being particularly 'evil', and banned on an individual basis?

i was never a jw, but was in the worldwide church of god...the two are rather similar, i've seen many (and made quite a few myself) comparisons on the board; and i can remember as a child that every once in a while certain things would get brought up as being more evil and worldly than others.. examples of specific bans:.

nvrgnbk

THE # 1 BANNED MOVIE-

THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST

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Specific banned shows, songs, etc...?

by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

i know the society tells people not to listen to rock n roll cause its from teh satan, not to watch r rated movies because they're "worldly", etc.

but i was wondering if folks had any specific instances where one song, one show, one movie, or whatever was singled out as being particularly 'evil', and banned on an individual basis?

i was never a jw, but was in the worldwide church of god...the two are rather similar, i've seen many (and made quite a few myself) comparisons on the board; and i can remember as a child that every once in a while certain things would get brought up as being more evil and worldly than others.. examples of specific bans:.

nvrgnbk

Ah,yes Buddy! Reminiscing about the pioneers. Many, not all of course, proved that mental stability was not a prerequisite for the job.

In keeping with this thread, remember some pioneers liked to "rock out" in service, listening to the radio, while others strictly banned any music other than the Kingdom Melodies? What a blast.

What a way to spend the best years of your life,

Nvr

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My sister's in ICU

by MsMcDucket in

one of my sister's was found laying in the door way of her home by a neighbor.

no one knows how long she had been there.

she was hypothermic when they found her.

nvrgnbk

I'm so sorry MsMD. Here's hoping that things improve.

Brotherly love,

Nvr

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Specific banned shows, songs, etc...?

by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

i know the society tells people not to listen to rock n roll cause its from teh satan, not to watch r rated movies because they're "worldly", etc.

but i was wondering if folks had any specific instances where one song, one show, one movie, or whatever was singled out as being particularly 'evil', and banned on an individual basis?

i was never a jw, but was in the worldwide church of god...the two are rather similar, i've seen many (and made quite a few myself) comparisons on the board; and i can remember as a child that every once in a while certain things would get brought up as being more evil and worldly than others.. examples of specific bans:.

nvrgnbk

I heard of guys getting the boot at Bethel for having in their posession music by ZZtop, INXS(for the song Devil Inside), and the list goes on and on.

We could do this for days,

Nvr

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I just got back from my circuit assembly !

by 5go in

ok i have listed all the intresting and thought provoking things.

hear they are from a to z.

<----------- yep nothing.. .

nvrgnbk

EVIL PHARISEES!

And they say whose beating up their brothers?