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Talk on Apostates

by IslandBrother in

have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible?

by calling ourselves christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of christ.

have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, many of them may look alike.

IslandBrother

Do you know if there is a message board for active JW?

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Talk on Apostates

by IslandBrother in

have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible?

by calling ourselves christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of christ.

have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, many of them may look alike.

I am 20 years old. I was thinking that i might find some Jehovahs witnesses that love Jehovah and His organization. to talk to.. since i live on an island and i dont get off this rock much. it is called "jehovahs-witness forum" right not just "ex-jehovahs-witness forum". so thanks if there are any in here that are supportive of my beliefs and not so dogmatic and clergy like.

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Talk on Apostates

by IslandBrother in

have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible?

by calling ourselves christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of christ.

have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, many of them may look alike.

IslandBrother

Hey by the way... since i am new to this and what not... are there any active JWs in here?

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Talk on Apostates

by IslandBrother in

have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible?

by calling ourselves christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of christ.

have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, many of them may look alike.

IslandBrother

Hello everyone. Thanks for your comments. It is interesting how adamant everyone is about accusing the Witnesses of Apostasy. It appears many feel that apostasy is not something to be looked down upon. For thier very comments(by the strictest definition) are apostate. So while some may not use the term with regard to themselves they are accusing Jehovahs Witneeses of the very same thing they themselves are doing. I was preparing this talk and another brother had the same talk in another hall so we were bouncing ideas off each other. The thing is... i was faith strengthened to see how true everything that i have learned from the WTS was true as i read the comments to the talk. I was amazed at how spot on the attitude of the comments were with the way JWs have presented apostates in their literature. I know that people are going to eat up my words in this comment and so I don't bother. I hope that the topic was something that was appealing (however you choose to define it). I was honestly disgusted at the comments of some. Others were enlightening with regards to the darkness that encompasses apostasy. Take care Island Brother

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Talk on Apostates

by IslandBrother in

have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible?

by calling ourselves christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of christ.

have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, many of them may look alike.

IslandBrother

"Apostates rarely want you to follow them, they just want you to stop following the Governing Body." Apostates aren’t satisfied just following another set of foot prints. They aim to make others their followers like they want people to leave like they did right? Follow them out of the organization?

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Talk on Apostates

by IslandBrother in

have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible?

by calling ourselves christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of christ.

have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, many of them may look alike.

IslandBrother

It was a talk i got from a brother asking for help to proof read.

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Talk on Apostates

by IslandBrother in

have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible?

by calling ourselves christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of christ.

have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, many of them may look alike.

IslandBrother

Have you ever walked on the beach and tried following another persons footprints; matching your own steps with them as exactly as possible? By calling ourselves Christians, we have indicated our desire to do just that, to follow closely in the footsteps of Christ. Have you ever noticed though that on a crowded beach, , there were several sets of footprints, Many of them may look alike. Well, in a spiritual sense, we need to be certain that we are following the correct ones! Otherwise we may be tricked into going in the wrong direction, leaving the path Jesus set before us. This is what apostates have done. If you have your reasoning book please turn with me to page 34 and read with me the definition of apostasy. Definition: Apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of God, actually a rebellion against Jehovah God. Some apostates profess to know and serve God but reject teachings or requirements set out in his Word. Others claim to believe the Bible but reject Jehovah’s organization. Tonight let’s discuss a couple of ways in which we can identify apostates. First let’s look at “Acts 20:30 From among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves.” And now let’s turn to (Romans 16:17-18) and notice how Paul helped the Roman congregation identify the footprints of apostates. 17 Now I exhort YOU, brothers, to keep your eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that YOU have learned, and avoid them. 18 For men of that sort are slaves, not of our Lord Christ, but of their own bellies; and by smooth talk and complimentary speech they seduce the hearts of guileless ones. Did you notice some identifying marks? Apostates aren’t satisfied just following another set of foot prints. They aim to make others their followers by using…. Counterfeit words Smooth talk Twisted reasoning Half-truths Flattery Deceptive logic Empty speeches And Outright lies to try to draw us away from Christ’s footsteps. They often concentrate on the imperfections of those who Jehovah has chosen to watch over the Christian congregation. They toss around seeds of doubt by using public criticism and other methods to get in the way of our work. Do you remember the account of Korah and his associates who rejected Jehovah’s visible organization? How did Jehovah feel about them? At Numbers 16:21 Jehovah said: “Separate yourselves from the midst of this assembly, that I may exterminate them in an instant.” We “separate ourselves” by steering clear of their reasoning—whether in person, in printed form, or on the Internet. As loyal Witnesses of Jehovah, we therefore have absolutely nothing in common with them. True Christians do not want to deviate from the path Christ has set before us. We love the organization that has taught us the precious truths that so plainly separate us from Babylon the Great. So friends, as Christians let us continually follow in the foot steps that Christ has so clearly left for us that lead to everlasting life