Then why don't you respect my feelings when I say that discussions about the Bible are foolish because the Bible isn't literal?
Tell you one thing I've seen on this forum, when someone makes a stupid statement, then everyone jumps their backside... I've had mine jumped as much as anyone... and you know what, I've learned to not care, that's just someone's opinion.
You made your choice when you replied, you didn't have to answer...this person started a thread I think is foolish, that's my opinion... I posted my thoughts... now, respect that or ignore it, but don't act like I don't have the right to say what I think about it!
I've seen the enemy, in my mind it's all religions and all those who bother to sit and argue things like what day the Sabbath is supposed to be based on a book of myths... You're wasting your time, cause guess what? This book isn't literal, and I'd give my left one if you guys would do like you did when you discovered the JWs aren't real... come to your senses.
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18God's Sabbath Day - Saturday or Sunday?
by brofromzion ingod bless you.
so you worship god on sunday?
didn't god commanded us to keep the sabbath day?
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God's Sabbath Day - Saturday or Sunday?
by brofromzion ingod bless you.
so you worship god on sunday?
didn't god commanded us to keep the sabbath day?
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Mary, this is an open forum.... sorry, but I can say what the hell I want.
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God's Sabbath Day - Saturday or Sunday?
by brofromzion ingod bless you.
so you worship god on sunday?
didn't god commanded us to keep the sabbath day?
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If you guys spent half your reading time on things that are relevant, then you'd not look silly questioning which day of the week the so called sabbath is on. Who gives a rat's behind? To read you guys quoting nonsense is such a kick...LOL!
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Responding to "It's the truth because it follows the Bible, ..."
by OnTheWayOut in"it's the truth because it follows the bible, rejects the trinity and hellfire, engages in worldwide preaching.".
i hear that from the jw's in my life.
the last time, i challenged the aspect of a worldwide preaching work.. i said that the work is barely scratching the surface in 2/3rds of the world- muslim, hindu, buddist lands.
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Just remember, they are wrong about some things, and if they're wrong they can't be teaching biblical "truths" all the time... or at least not all they say is the truth.
Read them John 6: 52... it's clear that all should partake of the meal, in fact "if you do not eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink his blood, you have no life in you". "a any one who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I shall raise that person on the last day".
Read them Rev chapter 7, where the great crowd is before the throne... what if they are wrong about these things?
I'm sure you know where they are wrong in your own words, don't let them get off the subject by finding three things they are right about, while letting them off the hook for all their comical errors. Remember the JW religion has done comical things, they obviously can be and have been wrong several times... this shows they are men, and thus fallible.
But stick to the theme that questioning men isn't an act of apostasy, make them show you where the Bible says this, it clearly doesn't convey that message. -
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Responding to "It's the truth because it follows the Bible, ..."
by OnTheWayOut in"it's the truth because it follows the bible, rejects the trinity and hellfire, engages in worldwide preaching.".
i hear that from the jw's in my life.
the last time, i challenged the aspect of a worldwide preaching work.. i said that the work is barely scratching the surface in 2/3rds of the world- muslim, hindu, buddist lands.
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Answer....
I've found inconsistencies... Did you know that the "Proclaimers" book doesn't tell the truth about Beth Sarim, and I can prove this beyond a shadow of a doubt with both the book itself and 'Millions Now Living"? It was actually built to house the returning "worthies" who Ruhterford had predicted would come back to this earth in 1929. He actually deeded this mansion over to them and I can show you the deed... why did Rutherford falsely predict this comical prediction?
He, like Russell, was ignorant of the fact that Jerusalem fell in 586/87BC and not 607BC. The bottom line question is... are these men "God's channel of communication"... are they "God's mouthpiece" as they have claimed and thus questioning them is am act of apostasy towards God and or Jesus? Clearly not, some of their acts have been comical and if they'd been committed by other religions, then the JWs would have scoffed at it.
The fact is, they change dogmas constantly, even when I think they are wrong about a dogma and I know it, I can't openly say so without being dis fellowshipped for apostasy? Take your Bible and show me where it says that I must follow the dogmas of men and if I don't then I'm not serving God.
Why can't I come to conclusions about the Bible on my own without getting shunned by my family and friends? If they are right about trinity, hell, and the like, and wrong about other things, which they clearly are, does that make these guys any different than the clergy? Doesn't the fact that they change dogmas clearly illustrate that they can be wrong at times? Then why is it apostasy to see that they are wrong and not go along with it, to speak out when clearly they are wrong? Show me where the Bible says I must continue to teach and live by what I know to be wrong teachings to be approved by god.
The point I'm getting at is, we as individuals are supposed to have a personal relationship with God, and we must act on what we as individuals perceive as the truth... clearly they've gotten some things right about the Bible, but why must I teach known falsehoods just because some of what the JW say may be right? What about what I know to be lies like the proclaimers book on Beth Sarim? -
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playing along with the disfellowshipped game
by milligal inmy son has come to stay with me for the summer, and this morning i got a phone call which showed on the caller id as my son's grandparents (my jw ex's parents who are also jw).
i assumed it was my ex calling from their house and answered handing the phone to my son.
that's when i heard his grandma's voice on the phone.
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Saltcon... not the dreaded titty sucking! LMAO!
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Wow-I didn't know.
by QuestioningEverything ini am shocked and saddened by the things that i have learned from this website and a few others i've seen.
my grandma was a witness and my mom started to study seriously when i was 8 yrs.
i was baptised at 13-way too young.
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Glad to have you here
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30,000 US troops to go home in July.
by BurnTheShips inhttp://66.111.34.180/look/english/article.tpl?idlanguage=1&idpublication=4&nrarticle=82678&nrissue=2&nrsection=1.
weird!?
for some bizarre reason this news didn't make any headlines in the us today.
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The war had to end some day, I'm glad the surge worked so hopefully we can completely leave this mess Bush and his supporters created.
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Adam and Eve, True or False
by RavenManiac indo you believe the story of adam and eve?
why or why not?
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I believe that tree was marijuana, and truthis and all like him/her have smoked way too much...LOL!
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What a deal!
by frozen one ini was talking to my neighbor earlier today and he told me his daughter was buying a house.
the house, a brand new 3 bedroom/2 bath built to energy star standards, has been for sale for over a year.
it was built by a local low to moderate income housing organization funded with a mix of public/private dollars.
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I agree with the Government subsidizing this woman about as much as I agree with them subsidizing and bailing out businesses that fail... remember Bush 1 and the Savings and Loan scandals? And now Bush 2 allowing oil companies to help shape energy policies 8 years ago and receiving billions in tax breaks?
I'll all end as soon as we decide to be Americans rather than Democrats and Republicans.