"I can easily pick out several events that if they had not happened, or had they played out differently, I might still today be gushing over the latest "generation" change and how this "new light" is such a wondeful blessing from Jehovah".
Are you kidding bro, and you think that these things don't happen to each and every JW? Some smart ass elder smarting off? Someone committing adultery? Something that happens to each and every JW that makes them have doubts? What? That only happens to you? You are a real cool person as far as I can see... and you know you're no better than anyone else... All JW's have all kinds of BS happen to them and yet some never question, I mean never! They just don't want their fantasy interrupted, its got to be that simple!
The hours devoted to hitting on the doors of strangers, the belief that you, only you and your fellow believers had the real truth about the biggest question that ever been asked by mankind! What is God's will, and am I doing it??? And the answer was always Yes! Yes! I'm in league with God... I'm doing his will! That makes anyone feel good doesn't it? Remember that feeling? I do....
But then it happens, it might be just one slight lie but you catch them still... and you wonder... why do they say not to listen to apostates? What I read today in my Watchtower simply isn't true. I wonder what they may be hiding? And after years and years of marching like a drone to the WT drum, you finally see something you absolutely can't verify. You have caught them, and without a doubt, you know for the first time that these men are just that....men... and you have no reason to fear them.
So you no longer ponder over the kissing of your wife's privates... you no longer worry that the ones you love my need blood to save their lives... and much more of your personal leanings may be discovered!
That is how it happens to people that see reality, because each and every JW, has reasons for doubt just like I described above... but that feeling, that feeling that each and everyone of us has felt, that we are loved by God himself, that we are the only ones doing his will, that's what makes doubters silence their feelings.... we all want God to love us....
Some of us just have the ability to see reality, and we can't let ourselves live in that fantasy world the JWs have created... But each and every JW knows in the pit of their minds that all of this is Bullshit... they just don't want to believe it... they want God's love just that bad.
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24Why I Hate the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society
by Darklighter in"hate" is such a strong word for what i feel though.
my feelings could more accurately be surmised in the simple question of "why?".
regardless, my feelings are not warm.
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Why I Hate the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society
by Darklighter in"hate" is such a strong word for what i feel though.
my feelings could more accurately be surmised in the simple question of "why?".
regardless, my feelings are not warm.
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Yea Dinah, but who or what do they really love? I don't believe the Bible is inspired by God, but it has some good words once in awhile... it says that you can't love God who you can't see if you don't love your brother who you can.
Is it love to tell another not to fact check? Is it love to not talk to your own son because he feels the facts do not show that the GB have the "truth", that they aren't inspired? And we all know, it's utter BS that these men know jack squat about anything... for the most part they're uneducated morons.. they are!
I'm sick of these people getting a pass, they'll get no more from me... I can damn well tell you that. They're not innocent nor are they loving.
How did you figure it out and they can't? See, it's what they want to believe that's all it is and if they're willing to sacrifice their love for me their own relative to defend a bunch of god damned idiots they've never met, then they are my enemies... period!.
In the US civil war it was brother against brother at times... this is a spiritual war, that we must win for all the future generations, just as those men stood firm to the death, we must firm, and it won't even cost us our lives.. -
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Do You Clearly Understand That "The Truth" Is Nothing But Bullcrap?
by minimus inwhat a waste of living being "in the truth" was!
sometimes i see persons suggesting that the witness religion isn't all so wrong.
actually they suggest that they themselves are the issue.
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choosing says..."I can stand up to them until I am blue in the face and the only thing accomplished is to scare my children away.
A person has to be ready to listen before they can learn something. I still have hope they will wake up one day. This is a cult we are dealing with which includes mind control"....
Have you ever read that scripture that says "I planted, Apollos watered, but God makes it grow"? We are seed planters sometimes, when others see us making a stand, an outward stand, then we plant the seed of doubt, it is followed by "water" and that's when the absolute dumb asses (sorry Simon) at the WTBTS do something absolutely idiotic which they do weekly-it waters the minds of those we planted a seed in... but then what I equate with God, which is our logic, makes it grow, and next thing you know another member of your family follows suit-and gets the hell out of this evil cult. That's our mission, it's to free the future generations, and friends...
I'm proud of you choosing... now watch and see if what I say doesn't come to fruition.
ANd to answer your question, I do not have children, and quite frankly I'm sick to the core of you that do acting like I don't understand something about loss... My family, Dad, Mother, Sisters, BIL, Nieces, Nephews, Cousins, Aunts, Uncles, and all the friends I ever grew up with... none of them talk to me now.
Oh, thats with the exception of my newly formed "apostate" family members, some openly apostate, and about 15 quite members that call me and bounce ideas off my head...
Are you trying to get in a pissing match about who suffers the most, those with our without children? I hope not, no two lives are comparable.. each and everyday, I miss my Dad... he'll die soon, and I'll never get to even speak a final word to him because he won't speak to me. I want to die when I think about that... and you want to compare suffering... please! I hope that's not your point. -
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Why I Hate the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society
by Darklighter in"hate" is such a strong word for what i feel though.
my feelings could more accurately be surmised in the simple question of "why?".
regardless, my feelings are not warm.
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I agree with you to a point... I hate the WTBTS, but those that follow it aren't innocent... I'm sorry, but they're not.
They should have had red flags go in their heads the minute the WTBTS said that questioning them was wrong... No man, nor group of men are above scrutiny. Yet, our family members make matters worse, they refuse to listen to us, refuse to fact check and then tell us we're following "Satan" for questioning men.
Nah, that's not innocence, that's stupidity! Ive often gotten just as pissed at my family for making me the first to make a stand, I've often asked myself why didn't someone years ago figure this out long before me since they've been in this catastrophe for the last 75 years?
I's really a no brainer. I shouldn't have been the first. -
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Do You Clearly Understand That "The Truth" Is Nothing But Bullcrap?
by minimus inwhat a waste of living being "in the truth" was!
sometimes i see persons suggesting that the witness religion isn't all so wrong.
actually they suggest that they themselves are the issue.
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Megs, please don't take this too harshly... but this that you said... "Judge not, that ye be not judged". I don't follow that rule nor do I want those I know to follow it...when I do badly, I want my friends to judge that and tell me in a nice way I'm wrong. Why would I want to continue on a stupid and "hypocritical" course of action?
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Do You Clearly Understand That "The Truth" Is Nothing But Bullcrap?
by minimus inwhat a waste of living being "in the truth" was!
sometimes i see persons suggesting that the witness religion isn't all so wrong.
actually they suggest that they themselves are the issue.
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"Forcing someone to act as you do is not exactly different than the strategy of the leadership of the watchtower"
Horse crap, telling someone their behavior is deplorable isn't forcing crap... why don't we all get together and sing Kumbyah, or however that darn song is spelled?
I've never shunned anyone, I just refuse to be shunned without there being repercussions to the one that shuns. Its a world full of grown ups and as grown ups we all have to accept the repercussions for our actions.
To those that won't make a stand, all I have to say is this... you are aiding those still in to think they're right, and the future actions of which you are partly responsible. The thousands that will suffer mental abuse at the hands of fools is partly aided by the fact that you refuse to speak out. If we all would make a stand this foolishness would have a better chance of ending. -
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I know that a lot of people here will not agree but........
by Wordly Andre inok, not to change anyones religious beliefs or anything but just because in my weird head!
i think it would be funny to protest at the assembly, with a bunch of people wearing funny halloween costumes of all sorts.
i know that a lot of people here are against that sort of thing, but i want to do it just because it will funny.
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Mother...a smurf? LMAO....
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Living with a J.W.
by speckles ini am mature adult and have been living with a j.w.
for the past 3.5 years.
when we meet he was not practicing has not practice for some few years.
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"has given my boyfriend a 2 week notice before he lays him off b/c of his disfellowship".
Good, because religious discrimination is against the law. Let him lay your boyfriend off, finical freedom may be right around the corner when you win a civil rights lawsuit. -
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Do You Clearly Understand That "The Truth" Is Nothing But Bullcrap?
by minimus inwhat a waste of living being "in the truth" was!
sometimes i see persons suggesting that the witness religion isn't all so wrong.
actually they suggest that they themselves are the issue.
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"yours has been a voice of reason at times when others wanted to just hate"
Each and every person should "hate" anything evil and wrong. The time for reasoning is long ago over. Why don't you reason with a person who abuses their wives? Please!
All JWs and anyone tolerable of their actions are allowing mental abusers a free pass... Period!
Stilla knows its wrong, as do many on this forum...
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Do You Clearly Understand That "The Truth" Is Nothing But Bullcrap?
by minimus inwhat a waste of living being "in the truth" was!
sometimes i see persons suggesting that the witness religion isn't all so wrong.
actually they suggest that they themselves are the issue.
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A poster said this..."I always considered other people's view with tolerance and respect".
Well I don't... I don't tolerate all kinds of human behaviors, views and actions each and everyday. Once they step on my toes, then they can kiss my backside. Honestly, I'm intolerant of your tolerance; I think tolerance is a cop out, a way to run to the hills and hide.
When a group of people say that you're evil, from Satan, won't talk to you because you don't agree with their god darned stupid views about God, then they'll get the wrath of Huff (my last name).
I also don't find the Hindu actions towards untouchables tolerable, nor do I find crashing planes into buildings tolerable... and I could make the list even bigger.
Listen folks, the JWs are enemies, they've made themselves that way, we didn't ask for it. Why do some of you have a problem understanding that these people are your enemies? The mental anguish that many of us go through is often times unbearable. And you want to tolerate that? Horse manure!
The Jws are right, this is "spiritual warfare" and they've aligned themselves with evil, not us. I will never tolerate such bullcrap. not ever! And it makes me sick that many of you cop out under the guise of tolerance.
Mini is right, this religion is utter crap, and to call a spade a spade isn't wrong...at least he has the guts to do so.