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  Is it ethical to have children?

  by joey jojo in

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  this was a news article recently in an australian newspaper that caught my eye.. the premise was that to have a child is to inflict an extra human being onto the world and also, to inflict the world (with all its problems) onto the child.. there is a lot to say about this but from jw point of view, i have always believed it to be incredibly hypocritical that jw's have children in 'this system'.

  all my life at the meeting i heard how little time we have left, how sick the world is, how i was probably going to be persecuted and end up in a jail cell for being a jw.

  why would anyone want to become parents in this situation, particularly if they are confident there is only 'a short time left'?.

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  I think they always had some kind of thing about waiting until the new system to have kids. I remember a family who's two kids are 10-15 years older than I am and I remember the dad saying when he and his wife got married which was probably in the late 30's or so that they were saying that couples should wait to have kids and they actually waited for some time until some "new light" from a drunken Knorr or whoever was the Top Dog then said you could have kids. Such a f***ked up organization telling folks when to have kids, then they keep flip flopping back and forth
  
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  Wives With Unbelieving Mates

  by minimus in

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  i knew many witness wives with unbelieving mates who pretty much led a double life.

  “my husband says i have to go the workplace christmas party.” or my mate tells me i have to make a thanksgiving dinnner.

  or “ my mate insists i do things in the bedroom that i know the watchtower has talked against.

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  Back when I grew up my dad was an UBM, back then the Borg used to say if your husband expected a holiday meal then fix it for him. I remember as a kid around the holidays we used to either go to someone's home or my mother used to cook.
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  Eulogies

  by redundantcartworker in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently attended a non jw funeral at a local church.

  during the service, a couple of friends/relatives of the deceased eloquently spoke for a few minutes about the deceased with some of their fond memories and gave heartfelt, respectful tributes.. would i ( a non jw) be given a few minutes to speak at either of my jw parents funerals at the kingdom hall ?.

  i guess i already know the answer, but if the answer is "no", then why not and how would they hide the heartlessness of refusing ?

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  Great move Flipper, I wonder if they actually knew they were the ones being called since they can be so pompous and smug at the same time.
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  They still manage to find me.

  by blisterfeet in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i grew up a jw, left at about 17 years old..(i'm 33 now) a little over a year ago i moved 1000 miles away from where i grew up.

  today i "ran" into someone in the same congregation as my dad... like how is that even possible?!?!?

  he was very kind, mentioned the borg but only in ways that related to his life.. his daughter is a pioneer, my dad gives "the best" comments at the meetings, my sister is awesome.. blah blah blah... .

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  it's a small world
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  Has Being a JW affected your SEX Life?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not being a witness has been a plus for my sex life.

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  what about you!

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  I always wondered about JWs who truly believed in the lie, were they really just a Saturday night only couple, or like wild animals with the JW forbidden anal and oral included. I remember a br gave a talk about that (how fitting on a Sunday afternoon with children of all ages sitting there listening, do other religions do that?) saying that sex is basically just a once a week Saturday thing for most folks anyway. How about the two virgin JWs wedding night, do they offer a prayer to Jah before knocking the boots which I remember a Bro. saying in the Watchtower that was about sex, once again how fitting for a WT study with children of all ages in the audience.

  Just as an aside, in the early 70's when I was in Junior High School, the first time I ever heard of oral sex was, at the KH during the WT study. So, thanks Jehovah.
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  Voletta Wallace

  by FreeFallin in

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  does anyone know if she is still a witness in good standing (b.i.g.

  's mother) she would go to a congregation in eastern pa. thanks!

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  Good standing like Michael Jackson's mother? The pioneer that had a birthday party thrown for her at a big Las Vegas hotel by her children? BIggy's money of course is no where near Jackson's, but that good standing takes on a different meaning for some members of the Borg.
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  WT predicting smartphones back in the 20s?

  by paradiseseeker in

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  2. friends

  i've come across a jw friendly article about watchtower predicting smartphones in the 20s.. .

  of course, in the comments section there are a lot of jws freaking out saying "there is no doubt that this is the only true organization!

  ", "thanks jehovah that used his faithful and discreet slave to tell us some useful information about the future!

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  Well how about that, after all these years or decades I should say they got at least one thing right.
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  Has Watchtower taken the joy out of 'the good news of the kingdom'

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i ask this question for the following reason.

  i was sitting at the kingdom hall thinking about all the rules, procedures, policies, teachings that each member must follow ......or else!.

  at the watchtower study we are reminded of the paradise earth where we will all be the same and happy.

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  Have they taken the joy out of it? I don't recall any joy being their at all, they're selling the same bullshit, just different new light and a kinda different angle now.
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  When Will Jehovah`s Witnesses Appoint A Woman As A Governing Body Member.? It`s Long Overdue !

  by smiddy3 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  jehovah himself gives the saying "the women telling the good news are a large army" psalms 68 : 11 coupled with the fact that a good portion of women partake of the emblems and wine at the annual memorial celebration.. identifying themselves as part of the 144000 that are taken from the earth to rule with christ jesus in the heavens.. isn`t it about time they were recognized for their contributions and given the fact that gods word the bible clearly states that 144,000 of anointed are to be taken from the earth which many women are a large part of.?.

  revelation ch.14 :4 could be argued that they are not lesbians { "these are the ones who do not defile themselves with women ,in fact they are virgins, etc,etc.}.

  i wonder just how many men who claim to be of the anointed have not defiled themselves with women and are virgins.?.

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  N*E*V*E*R

  I remember in the early 1960's we had a female "area study" conductor though,that's as far as female got in the Borg.
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  Fade..... or this?

  by Giordano in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there are four ways to leave the 'truth'...... alive............you can be disfellowshiped...... then shunned, you can formally disassociate yourself and be shunned........ you can fade.

  the first two words belong to the society, fade on the other hand is defined as 'to gradually grow faint and disappear.

  ' 'walking away' has it's own negative connotation about one's commitments and relationships.. i think some folks feel uncomfortable with these words.

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  I guess that's what I did, disengage, since I was a born-in and never baptized, I never really brought into it but when I got around my early twenties my father saw that I really wasn't into it and I didn't have to go to meetings anymore if I didn't want to. So since that was all I knew since birth, I guess I "disengaged" from da troof.