take a look.... tp://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/21/special-swine-flu-update.aspx#.
don cameron.
Here are some more thoughts about the Spanish Flu of 1918.. "The Spa nish flu of 1918 didn’t cross Greece border"
"20,000,000 died of that flu epidemic, worldwide, and it seemed to be almost
universal or as far away as the vaccinations reached. Greece and a few
other countries which did not accept the vaccines were the only ones which
were not hit by the flu. Doesn’t that prove something?"
See http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message852138/pg1
Don
take a look.... tp://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/21/special-swine-flu-update.aspx#.
don cameron.
Elsewhere,
You said, "I just do not understand the ethics of discouraging vaccinations. More people die when vaccinations are not taken."
Here is another interesting article that you may not have seen…
THE SPANISH INFLUENZA EPIDEMIC OF 1918
WAS CAUSED BY VACCINATIONS
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/sf1.html
Don Cameron
take a look.... tp://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/21/special-swine-flu-update.aspx#.
don cameron.
Take a look...
tp://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/21/Special-Swine-Flu-Update.aspx#
Don Cameron
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Don Cameron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_od55wvdmm.
There is a lot of interesting stuff available about what happened in 1976 when the Swine Flu popped up the first time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcJt4jX1Vo
Don Cameron
i just finished reading "captives of a concept" i thought it was a terrific book.
has any one had any success studying the history with a jw?.
Cawshuan,
I'm not aware of any new Edition of the Proclaimers book. If there is one it would be interesting to see if they revised the footnote on page 133.
Don
i just finished reading "captives of a concept" i thought it was a terrific book.
has any one had any success studying the history with a jw?.
JWS said, "What I don't remember is whether they expected Jesus to come in 1874."
Russell did not begin to think that Jesus came in 1874 until 1876. That was when Nelson Barbour explained it to him. – "Proclaimers" book, p. 47.
Once Russell made the mistake of believing Barbour he taught that mistake for the rest of his life. From that moment on he told the world to stop looking FORWARD to the Second Coming Christ. Rather that since Jesus already came in 1874 that therefore Christians should stop looking forward but rather to look BACKWARD to 1874 for that event. Russell never expected Jesus to come in 1914 to begin his invisible presence.
If Jesus did in fact come in 1914 it means Russell was responsible for causing everyone who listened to him to miss the most important Event in the history of the Christian religion since the First Coming of Christ - i.e. the Second Coming of Christ.
I think it is fair to wonder why Jehovah never allowed Russell to understand when his Son had returned. How faithful or discreet could Russell have been that caused God to block him from ever being able to understand such an important event?
I also wonder why anyone (God or otherwise) would select an organization that mislead the whole world about the Second Coming of Christ for 67 years (from when Russell first started teaching 1874 to 1943 when the Society stopped teaching 1874). – See footnote on page 133 of the "Proclaimers" book.
Don Cameron CaptivesOfaConcept.com
P.S. The above assumes that Jesus did in fact return in 1914 - which I do not believe.
i hear it a lot on this board that the 607 date is wrong... i figured that out while i was a jw... never really thought much about it though.
just thought, ok, if it's wrong then everything is moved up about 20 or so years.... and for that matter, why is it such a big deal to the society?
why can't they just fix the date so it's right.
Hi Hamsterbait,
You asked where the "Proclaimers" book says that "Christ did not return to the vicinity of the earth (even invisibly) in 1914."
Their statement is in paragraph 1 on page 137 of the "Proclaimers of God's Kingdom book. It reads this way...
[The Bible Students] came to understand that it was in the year 1914 that Christ's invisible presence had begun and that this was, not by his personality returning (even invisibly) to the vicinity of the earth, but by his directing his attention toward the earth as ruling King."
I don't know how I missed including that page reference in my book. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I'll fix it.
Don Cameron
www.CaptivesOfaConcept.com
JWfacts,
Whenever I see the various terms that are used to refer to "God's organization" I always think of the men of the Governing Body who are hiding behind whatever terms are use. It helps me notice the difference between what they are saying and what it actually means. And if what Ray Franz said about these men still holds true today, even those men don't see the difference between what they are saying and what it means. - Crisis of Conscience, p. 296, 297
And if they don't notice the difference it makes it very difficult for Jehovah's Witnesses to notice the difference.
Don
so my service overseer just called to get my time.
a quick check on my youtube account watchtower comments showed over 6,900 views in the month of february.
"that's 480 hours of witnessing this month, brother.
A PDF (Download) version of the book is only available at www.CaptivesOfaConcept.com
If you like the printed pages to always lie nice and flat when opened to any page, a coil binding version is also available there. Of course, the regular "perfect binding" version is also available.
