i have put up some key points you might want to see from ciro's talk:.
http://www.randytv.com/cironotes.htm.
randy watters.
Randy,
We need to send a copy of this Talk to members of the UN for a prompt investigation. This is clearly the work of the Governing body. How can they openly in very descriptive way mentioned the UN as the scarlet harlot when they are fucking with her. I'm recording this shit and I'm sending a copy to the United Nation for their review.
it has been six months since my disfellowshipping from the jw org.
and let me tell you that i'm doing greeeeat, it is amazing.
life is so different when you are no longer a slave of the wts.
Hi everyone,
It has been six months since my disfellowshipping from the JW org. and let me tell you that I'm doing greeeeat, it is amazing. Life is so different when you are no longer a slave of the WTS. Its great to be back after so long!! woooooooo!! Great to see this board alive!. So many new poster. Of course some of you know that I'm from NYC and since the Sept 11 tragedy things were not so good for me. I still have memories and so many what if I....? But I'm trying to put all this behind now. I haven't had much time to drop a few line here but hopefully I will reach SENIOR status. I've being in touch with few of my closest friends, Silentlamb who's one of my biggest supporter, Amazing who I personally met and share so much insight, Worf my buddy who faced the same execution I endured and my buddy Patriot who I speak almost every day. Its great to be back and I look forward to sharing more experiences.
As for the Dateline NBC show about Pedophiles oh boy this is so frigging shit. This is real. Why? I met with the producer of Dateline NBC whom I haven't seem since Sept 11 when we accidentally bump into each other while he was heading to the scene of the tragedy. Again we met and this time we share a few thoughts about the upcoming program. From this discussion all I can say is this is really a bombshell. The governing body must be scratching their heads right now.
After dateline NBC it will be "Primer impacto" next for the spanish audiences. I hope to reach the hispanic community with the same message. If anyone knows or have information please email me. It will take time but it will be done.
I'm back again!!!
i know that many of you are trying to put the attack of september 11 behind you.
many us who still have memories about this tragedy that will go away easily.
i told patriot that i'll call him back because my sister was inside the building right next to it (tower two).
Hi all,
I know that many of you are trying to put the attack of September 11 behind you. Many us who still have memories about this tragedy that will go away easily. If you live in NYC and worked around the area where it all happened than is obvious that this can not go away.When I still see the smoke coming out of what was once the place I spent over three years it is sad. After the September 11 attack on America I had only manage to post just once about my experience of how my sister made it out safely. It was only a brief account of what I experience the day of September 11. I was so distressed about this tragedy that I needed some time off to redeem myself and let go of the anger. Let me just start by saying that my heart still goes out to the those families who have lost love one. I lost a wonderful friend in Tom who worked in the 70th floor as Sales consultant for our firm Morgan Stanley. Prayers goes out to his family and to many men and women who risked their lives to save others. They are true heros.
Allow me to give an account of what it was like September 11 for me:
The morning of September 11 I was up at 6AM getting set to start work earlier than my usual schedule. That morning I dropped off my wife at the train station but before we had a short conversation. I told how much I loved her and how sometimes is worth sacrificing so much of yourself and getting good things in return. I stayed late the night before so I was hoping to leave earlier that day. I had second thought about showing up to work earlier than my regular hour. Anyway, I dropped her off at the nearest conner. I kissed her good bye when I noticed when she gave me a look of sadness. I want it to ask her if she was ok. But she had crossed the other side of the street. So I headed home to pick up a few things and then leave. I received a phone call from good friend Patriot.
He called me on his Mobile phone to tell me news that one of the WTC tower was on fire and that possibly a small engine plane had crashed. I thought for a moment that he was joking. He told me to turn the TV and see for my self. I turned on the TV and was shocked as to what I saw. I told Patriot that I'll call him back because my sister was inside the building right next to it (tower two). I hanged up the phone and went back to continue watching when inmediately the second plane hit tower two. I rushed out of the house, drove my car downtown Manhattan. While driving on the FDR express way I was thinking about my wife who worked nearby, my sister, my relatives who also worked for the firm, my co-workers and the many friends inside. Traffic was moving slow so I decided to get out at the nearest exit. I parked and walked all the way down to the area. There was so many people just looking stunt and in disbelief. I was hoping that I will find my wife and my sister along the way.
I reached my wife place of business and right in front of my eyes I could see Tower two collapsing. I felt numb. I knew that at the moment it was too late. I knew my wife was ok because they had evacuated her place of business, but I thought I lost my sister,and all of my friends, relatives and everybody I knew. I didn't know what to do at the moment. I headed east towards Canal street when I met with a security guard who worked on 71st floor. He was covered in dust and scared. I ensure him that it was ok that he made out safe. I told him I was looking for my sister. He said that he thinks that almost everyone from 74 floor down made it out safely. That only gave a bit of comfort. Finally, one of my co-worker paged me and told me that everyone was ok and that my sister was ok.
When I returned to worked two days after, all I did was embrace my colleagues and friends. They anounced that Tom was missing. I was devastated by the news. But there was still some hope. Finally about two weeks ago a funeral memorial was done on his honor. He never made it out of the building. Here was someone whom I personally knew became a good friend for over three years. Great personality, Great friend. I was happy to see him at my wife surprise baby shower done at work. We joined the firm right about the same time. He never hesitated to ask me for assistance. I remember the day he had asked me to install a programing language software on his workstation. I knew it was important to him I assured him that I will have it done asap as it was late. That conversation took place monday September 10 when he just going home. I never thought it was going to be my last conversation with Tom. I will never forget that day. Our last conversation! May God bless you Tom. We'll miss you!
Exodus
visions of a legacy tonight, i open up my soul to all of you with things that have come into focus for me in recent weeks.
i am not sure how or why i have been able to nail down a few things of importance to me, but finally they have become clear to me.. the question: we all have in common the fact that each of us will one day leave this life and close our eyes in death.
the question we each have before us is what will we leave behind in our wake?
Hi Amazing,
I can truly attest to your words. You really inspired me. Just as Silentlamb and Patriot were there to helped me with my own struggle, You also were there also, providing me with a great source of encouragement and comfort. I wouldn't made it if it wasn't for the support of you and many others on this discussion board. And just like I told you I 've never felt so good about my self and my current life. I'm happy with my family, we are having a wonderful time inspite of all the the tragedy within the past month. I want to thank you very much for making the effort to meet with me. I learned a lot from you. Your wisdom and knowledge inspired me and I hope we can meet again.
Remember that even if you don't realized it you are touching peoples life in a very positive way. That's why I enjoyed meeting you. You are leaving a legacy because you are SIMPLY AMAZING!!
i just like to give everyone my account as to how i lived thru this tragedy.
i worked on the 70th floor at 2wtc as an employee of morgan stanley.
i was supposed to be in early but decided to go make it late.
Hi all,
I just like to give everyone my account as to how I lived thru this tragedy. I worked on the 70th floor at 2WTC as an employee of Morgan Stanley. I was supposed to be in early but decided to go make it late. That morning, I received a phone call from Patriot my friends who also post here that a plane had crashed into one of the tower. My fleshly sister and many of my co-worker worked at 2WTC floor 67th and 70th floor when this happened. At the time I did not know which tower was hit but as I'm watching the news and getting dress to go find my sister the second plane hit tower # 2. My sister was sitting at her desk when the plane came crashing into the building. Most of my co-worker and other worker on the upper floor were evacuating the building. They had already evacuated everyone on the upper floor when the first plane hit above 70th floor. My sister saw the big cloud of smoke and engine fuel falling from the top. She inmediately ran down the stairs along with everybody else on the floor. She suffers from heart problems but thank God she made it out ok. She was overcome by grief as she saw body parts and debris all over. Luckily she made it far enough before tower # 2 collapsed. She is in total shock and is currently getting professional help.
I got close enough to see tower # 2 collapsed and just could no bear to see what was happening. NYC was in total caos. I was trying to search for my sister and all my co-worker. Thank God they all made it ok! The second plane hit right above my boss office. It is a real tragedy that only of the total people that were inside made it out.
Then Tower # 1 collapsed right in front of my eyes. I thank God for those who made it out safe. I pray for the family of victims who perished or were injured. I'm really thankful that I decided to go to work at my regular hour. But if I had decided to be there at 9:30AM I think that could have been tragic for my family. I thank those who I personally know on this board who called me at home an left me messages just to find out if I was ok. My company was leasing at the time 25 floors. Tower # 2 was technically called Morgan Stanley. It is sad and right now is so painful to imaging that there are so many people missing. This is terrible tragedy and evil act of terrorism. Lets all pray for everyone who has lost friends or relatives.
I will probably come back at later time to post. Love everyone and again I thank God I made it Ok!
a side of relief for me but angry for what happened after the announcement of my disfellowship from the wts.
i urged my mother not to attend because of the emotional trauma and agony you experience.
she's diabetics and any emotional let down can cause her serious problems.
Hi all,
I have printed out all of your responses so I can read it over and over. This is a great place for me right now and it is also great therapy. Victor Escalante thank amigo for your insightful information. I will need time to reflect that's for sure. I'll make the most of my free time and enjoy life to the fullest. I have the freedom now so lets use it. Thank you all once again and please lets all continue on helping others who may be in the same situation.
Peace to all
a side of relief for me but angry for what happened after the announcement of my disfellowship from the wts.
i urged my mother not to attend because of the emotional trauma and agony you experience.
she's diabetics and any emotional let down can cause her serious problems.
I want thank all of you for your loving support. Sometimes I admit I got carried away but no bad intentions. Its true what Farkel said in his post. This morning I woke up and felt so good. First thing I got was a big hug from my loving wife and words of encourgement. How good to be free from the oppresion and control. Yes I'm still bitter but like Farkel said is going to take time to heal. Thanks Farkel and the many friends on this board.
NYTELECOM1 you said: "what exactly do you mean by this statemen?...are you saying JW lack love because your mom fainted or becuase you were df's"
Not at all. I questioned as to why this has to happened the way it happendone. There is nothing spiritual about this or biblical. The lack of love comes from all the rules that this man had set up. Look man, life goes for me and family. I'm healing now and what I'm getting from from members of this board is lots of love and support, this I won't get from the JW's and that's the truth.
peace to all!!!!
a side of relief for me but angry for what happened after the announcement of my disfellowship from the wts.
i urged my mother not to attend because of the emotional trauma and agony you experience.
she's diabetics and any emotional let down can cause her serious problems.
Hi all,
A side of relief for me but angry for what happened after the announcement of my disfellowship from the WTS. I urged my mother not to attend because of the emotional trauma and agony you experience. She's diabetics and any emotional let down can cause her serious problems. She did went to the hall and right after the announcement her blood sugar level drop and she almost fainted. I got a call from a relative saying that she had to be driven home and was taking medication. NOW for all this people who normally defend this distructive cult I ask just one question, IS THIS THE KIND OF LOVE YOU CLAIM TO SHOW OTHERS? I understand now why KENT and many others on this board feel the way I'm feeling right now about exposing this cult for what they really are.
It's time to do something about this org. to expose them for what they are. Hell yea I'm bitter. I've done my part on helping expose child molestation by providing damaging documents to Dateline but and there will be more.
By the way if one is interesting and happened to have a copy of the Ocotber 1st Watchtower on page 17 there is photo of one the participant of my execution. The semi-bold gentleman next to a lady shaking hand with a young man was one of the fellow who came knocking on my door. How ironic that right after my expulsion I get the subscription of the WT and when I opened it to see the latest development I stumble on his photo. He wants public exposure now he got it!!! Because of copyright law I can post it but if you do have it is there.
Simon: Is it ok to say his name?
KENT: pls email at [email protected] I need your help.
Peace to all!!
many of you already know about my upcoming disfellowshiping for bogus charges of apostacy.
what i did was in honor of the real truth.
i decided to send all the members of the congregation except those who accused me a farewell letter with a nice attachment.
I'm moving this up!
many of you already know about my upcoming disfellowshiping for bogus charges of apostacy.
what i did was in honor of the real truth.
i decided to send all the members of the congregation except those who accused me a farewell letter with a nice attachment.
Hi all,
Many of you already know about my upcoming disfellowshiping for Bogus charges of apostacy. What I did was in honor of the real truth. I decided to send all the members of the congregation except those who accused me a farewell letter with a nice attachment. The letter simply said how thankful and happy we were for all the love and care we received.I explained how was treated by the JC and why I did not appealed the case knowing who partial they are. The attachment was the original letter sent to the BOE requesting their response as to why they handle the case the way they did and why they never follow bible guidelines. I felt teh need to do this as I know how twisted the Elders can be. This was my last attempt to show them my love and have them see for themselves their own WTS brand of justice. I was amuzed by how many call me back and still calling wishing me and family the very best in handling this situation. They are in disagreement with the way things were handled.
Some may go as far as questioning the BOE. I only encouraged them to continue to keep serving Jehovah God and follow Christ and do not put their faith in any more on nobel men. It was really sad to hear a message from a very loving siter cried her heart out about this outcome. Another sister left a message expressing her love and inspite of the decision she will continue to love me. She asked if there was anything she can do to help me. I told her to just pray. Few sisters also asked if they could still write to the WTS. I told them not to waste their time and face the same execution, its useless. Another brother who used to serve as an Elder for many years was very emotional. He made himself available to help in any way possible. They're feeling the pain and anguish of this decision. This is the the type of pain and anguish this sadistic org. enjoy on people. No doubt that the shunning will officially start inmediately after the announcement but I'm really doubtful that many of whom I've spoken will actually comply with it. My greatest happiness now is to hear them speak their mind. I'm so confident that the friends I've spoken will ignore this shunning policy. WTS YOUR TIME IS UP! YOUR EFFORT ARE DIMINISHING VERY SLOWLY. YOU ARE LOSING THE GRIP!! All I'm expecting for the WTS is to send their agents and once again reinforce this policy. Believe me, the friends will see the change inmediately.
What are they going to do now? Are they going to disfellowship the entire congregation except for those who accused me? The decision is now in at hand. I only urge everyone on this DB to please if you believe in God pray for all this people who are possess by this wicked org. I think that is the most nobel thing to do. They are not at fault. Blame the WTS for violating basic human rights.
P.S - One who can attest to this is my friend PATRIOT because he heard all the messages that were left and knows whats going on.
