I think that is wonderful. Your dad was out of line and your husband let him know it, pronto.
Sometimes I think it's best to shun the shunners.
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recently an elder called mike's mob phone wanting to speak to me, the only person who could have passed on that info was my elder dad.
mike has been waiting for my dad to call him to arrange to see the kids, as he wont deal with me at all.
so mike said to him i dont appreciate you giving our number out to the elders, we want nothing to do with them or your religion etc... mike than called me and said there was so much more i wanted to tell him.. i get a phone call about 30 mins later, mike had rang my dad and said if you want to see your grandkids then there are a few rules you will need to follow, 1. dont ever give out our personal details (which my dad apologised for and acknowldeged that he shouldnt have done that ) and 2. if you want to see your grandkids you need to speak to your daughter, you can msg her phone or even speak to her.
I think that is wonderful. Your dad was out of line and your husband let him know it, pronto.
Sometimes I think it's best to shun the shunners.
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or so due to health, availability of articles, and personal priorities.
after that, the format will be briefer consisting mostly of the article with fewer comments by me allowing more comments by readers/posters.. love, blondie.
Thank you so much blondie. I read your comments every week but I rarely post on the thread. I hope you are well and enjoy your hiatus. I look forward to the condensed version upon your return.
Thanks, again!
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does your conscience torment you knowing that you are misleading the flock of god as you continue teaching them the heresies of the watchtower society?.
why are you staying in the organization and posting here at the same time?.
do you really believe that you can help your families to reject the watchtower society while remaining an elder and visibly appearing to support their lies and false teachings?.
Why should elders enjoy their families when others have lost theirs. They should know our pain.
This is as far as I got. I will read this entire thread later but comments like this make me sick! Everyone endures thier own pain at thier own pace. I have had enough of my own pain thrust down on me from the tower. I cannot imagine the pain it must be for anyone who is FORCED to go through the motions to protect what he's got.
One can only escape after one realizes that by living a lie he is protecting what he hasn't got, really. Where's the enjoyment in that? I hate what the WT$ does to families.
Between a rock and a hard place I'd say.
I would not wish my pain on anyone and would not want to experience the pain of others in different circumstances.
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i have read isocf and coc.
shocking, disturbing and twisted.
what do you all recommend for deprogramming.
The last "deprograming" book I read was Cof C. I still want to read "Combating Mind ControL" that has been mentioned here, a lot. Also, reccommened to me by a favorite poster of mine, "The Power of Now" by Eckert Tolle. I'll read that one soon.
The last novel I read was "Angels and Demons" and just prior to that I read "The Davinci Code" I just bought "Frankenstein" by Mary Shelly (for 50 cents) and that will be my reading for this fall.
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i'm just wondering if any of you are sk fans, i just started to read the dark tower books, i began with the second book "the drawing of the three" and have not read the first one, so far so good.
just wondering how many of you are sk fans.. lola.
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I stopped reading SK around 1997 when started I living alone for the first time in my life. His style of writing made my imagination do crazy things. But I loved his stories. I guess my partner always made me feel safe and kept me grounded a bit. I still live alone and wouldn't even think of reading anything SK. He' good!
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are you trying to give nvr a run for his money when it comes to bizzar topics?.
no nvr, that wasn't a challenge.....ok, maybe it was.. .
this is one celebration i look forward to even more than christmas.. the world in general has christmas, and that's fun.. but only ex-jws have non-attendance of the memorial to celebrate.
are you trying to give nvr a run for his money when it comes to bizzar topics?.
no nvr, that wasn't a challenge.....ok, maybe it was.. .
this is one celebration i look forward to even more than christmas.. the world in general has christmas, and that's fun.. but only ex-jws have non-attendance of the memorial to celebrate.
i'm not saying those in power would even contemplate doing this, but i wonder just how far jws would go to obey their leaders.
would they go as far as to kill, if they thought god had given that message to 'his people'?.
it would probably take years of subtle changes in their message so that it didn't come as a big shock.
After the attacks of 9/11 I called my mom to find out if she was alive.
We got into a discussion about fundmentalist religion. I told her that I believed if the directive came from Brooklyn to fly planes into buildings she would do it. She told me I was crazy.
I still feel that die hard JWs would do ANYTHING the GB asked.
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be honest.. my best quality is my humility.. my worst is that i lie..
Nvr, That is freaking me out!
be honest.. my best quality is my humility.. my worst is that i lie..
Best, Kindness
Worst, Sensitive
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