im being hounded by elders intent on having a judicial hearing with me.
im recently separated, (i left my spouse) and i believe they are after me to df me for adultery as ive taken up with someone else.
i havent returned their calls, (they've been coming the last 2 weeks or so)
You could always invite them at your place with your new partner.
Arrange for a exact time that when there knock on your front door, that your door is wide open and you are doing the "deed" in full view with your partner.
It will answer all their questions at once, even without them verbally asking!
A picture paints a thousand words! And so do noises too!
credit goes to jw freak for bringing out that "young people ask , answers that work vol 2" will be coming out this dc.
.
lets talk .... .
Internet Chatrooms and Forums - Are they really that bad?
Does wearing three condoms at once while having sex before marriage really pornea?
Should I tell on those that touch me in my private areas?
i had to hunt high and low for this video, finally found it.
it's from his 2001 'music jamboree' series... hilarious!
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfi0vu9vyg.
That's was funny, I really like Joe Safran. I haven't seen that one until now.
He is actually quite the knowledgable person when it comes to religion.
.
old timers on the board may remember that i was the first to mention the november 06 blood insert in the km.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/121104/1.ashx.
the same very, very reliable source has confirmed that the book study will be amalgamated with the tms and sm.. this same source recently had a long and private conversation with a gb member.
We pay from $1.50 per litre which equals US$4.05 per gallon(US) or £2.991 per litre (UK)
official speculation thread.... even if a reason is given for the meeting rearrangement when it is announced on 4/27, we all know how the society spins things (e.g., awake magazine being reduced to one issue per month to "put more emphasis on the bible" real reason.. .
so why is the society doing this?
on the surface, it seems to be a loosening of control.
I dont know if it will be just the US or worldwide, but looking at the May KM, it has an announcement regarding the CBSO making sure that the emergency numbers of publishers are up to date. This had lead me to think of the following:
1/ The change will not be immediate, as they have already announced the next book. Judging by a few other posters, the change maybe applied to the following book.
2/ Most congregations have poor meetings attendances for both the TMS and BS.
3/ There is a shortage of CBSO who are 'qualified', but this has no real impact as basically any elder is 'qualified' no matter how bad they are
4/ Insurances have nothing to do with it, but peadophiles cases may have some bearing in the US
Lastly,
5/ Don't you know that they are God's Holy Spirit Guided Organisation? They can do whatever they feel like!
no he becomes a member of the lowly rank and file...and if no reason is given it is accepted that he was forced out...
My experience has shown me it has do with the circumstances of that particular elder.
Area 1 - Removing
Elders that are removed are usually for the heavier matters.
1) I have heard/seen elders removed where they are never to be re-appointed, eg causing divisions in the congregation, apostasy etc.
2) Elders can be removed for other serious judicial reasons, eg fornication etc. (Sometimes the body may recommend the elder to voluntary stepdown if he happens to confesses the sin before it becomes public knowledge, thus saves them the embarressment of being removed.) Depending on crime depends on how they can be re-appointed.
Majority of cases there are usually appointed as MS, then at a later date as an elder. 2-3 years time period is usually the standard period, but things can and do happen quicker for many reasons. At times, they may be reappointed directly as an elder without being firstly an MS. Rare, but there have been cases have happened in the past.
Area 2 - Stepping Down (Voluntarily)
1) An elder can step down for few reasons, eg family commitments, sickness etc.
2) Some find that being an elder is not what it cracks up to be, or is out of their capabilities (eg compassionate, long-suffering with the brothers, etc).
Most common for a elder to step down is usually sickness or family commitments.
These either have the option where they can go back to being a MS if they feel that they can still handle to 'running of the business' responsilities, but they dont want the teaching/shepherding responsilities. Alot of environmental factors can play in this area too, eg not enough MS in the cong, or they have plenty but they do not wish the elder to feel lonely etc.
Most of elders that step down, just wishes to be a publisher until things are back in order. When the time is right again, they can be either be appointed as an elder or MS.
Area 3 - Stepping Down (Forcibly)
1) An elder that has rocked the bandwagon can be forced to step down by others (especially those who want a tight grip on the cong).
2) Some elders step down cause they cannot get along with the "Body" and find it better to stay out of the circle.
In most of these cases, once the elder steps down, they usually will not reach out for any priviledges ever again. True the saying, "once bitten, twice shy".
Others that want to reach out again either:
a) are just wanting to get back at the body
b) are just plain suckers for punishment
c) are genuinely true elder material, but wishes to get on with things and makes it a learning lesson. (Very, very, very rare)
have you ever done diy or made something from scratch and stepped back and thought something isn't quite right ,it just doesn't look right ,it doesn't work as it should and it takes days before you figure what's wrong?
well that's how i view the concept of god as the creator.nothing adds up , the proposition just doesn't look right.maybe the stories in the bible looked right when they were first written and people accepted the bible's statements at face value, but the longer i live the more sure i am that the concept of an almighty creator as expounded in the bible just doesn't add up,it doesn't look right.there must be another explanation waiting to be discovered.. with all this in mind let us imagine what really happened right at the very beginning but try to make it logical if it is at all possible.how would you go about creating a world like ours ?
.
I would use Simcity.
witnoid e-mails goin around.. all i can say is wtf.. japan assembly experience.
date: tue, 22 jan 2008 15:58:51 -0500. .
convention experience from japan!
I too heard of that story at either a CA or DC only in the last few years.
If the father was that much involved with the Yakuza, what happened to him?
i use to, well i still do think its no better than the confession idea to a priest.. 1. how many elders step down and are removed and what then?.
2. how many people have access to the file cabinet?.
3. my biggest thought is how many that are no longer elders repeat the dirty little secrets?.
What!
Do they have a filing cabinet?
The only thing I could remember that in one congregation that I grew up in they had a actual full size safe, like in the cartoons. The only way you could open it was knowing the dial combination and also a key! Mind you, a couple of sticks of dynamite wouldn't even scratch the thing either. We had to move it once and we needed a pallet jack to lift it. It bent the fridge trolley!
Dont know about my current cong though. I haven't seen any filing cabinet or anything that could hold filing of any sort.
when i was a teenager, i was told by an elder that because i smiled a lot and was known for my good sense of humor, that i should come across as "more serious".
so before i was appointed a ms, while in my late teens, i transformed myself into a much more "serious" brother.. were you ever told that you needed to work on something that you knew was stoopid?.
I never got counselled for anything (as I was in a favored crowd with the elders - though I didn't do much wrong though) but I had friends that did.
One brother was counselled for giving out his home number to a sister at a DC (pre-mobile era). He was grounded by his father who was also an elder for 6 weeks!
A brother got counselled for breaking into a brothers car as the brother had locked his keys in the car. The brother was in within 10 secs and you would have not even known it on the street. It was not like he was there for about 3 mins and visible for all to see. Mind you, a few months later went the KH had new locks installed, the elders accidently locked the new set of keys in the hall. Guess who they called? Elders do suffer from Selective Alzhiemers as this brother told them.
Having a car that wasn't cleaned when going out witnessing. The brother lived on a farm at the time and had a dirt road for a driveway.
A sister was not "hospitable" when the CO and a Elder dropped in for a cup of coffee while out witnessing. She was on her way to work and told them she was leaving there and then!
A brother went to a football game on the day of the Special Assemby and went to a neighhbouring circuits the following day. The following year, the same elder was going on a boat trip and was going to a neighbouring CA. The brother reminded of him what he had said to him the previous year. Another case of Selective Alzheimers.
I wish I could remember more.
