whereami
Hehe. The guy has incredible focus.
You ain't kidding!!!
I posted that to show how it feels like when you have these kind of posts. These people just want to distract. They're not here for any real discussion.
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I'm Starting To Understand Atheist and Evolution
by Philadelphia Ponos infor many years i was sincerely perplexed when someone told me they believed in the evolution theory or were an atheist.
i never understood how someone could ignore all the evidence for intelligent design and overlook all the holes in the evolution theory.
for example, the human biology clock is synced with the rotation of the earth, the earth is the perfect distance away from the sun to sustain life, the earth has an ozone layer to protect us from the sun's radiation, the earth naturally produces fruits and vegetables to be used for food, our bodies produce enzymes to break down the fruits and vegetables so it can nourish us, the earth produces water and oxygen, etc.
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April 2011 Awake page 27: Abuse ignored because of misguide loyalty....
by NVR2L8 ini rarely look at any wt publications anymore, but under watching the world, april 2011 awake quotes a newspaper article that blames the covering of sexual abuse on the misguided loyalty to the absolute authority of the catholic church.
i couldn't help thinking of the many cases of child abuse amongst jws that have been swept under the rug for the exact same reason - the absolute authority of the fds!
they have no shame pointing their finger at others when in fact they are as bad...if not worse in mistreating the victims of abuse.
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whereami
These guys have some balls!!!!
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Divorce rate among Christians, one more for the Atheists and Agnostic!!
by jam inmiseryloveseldrs, your topic yesterday (marry only in the lord).
made me think.. we have heard the saying, a family that pray togather stay.
togather, i believe in psalms or proverbs we are told, marry.
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Was the Bible forged? Author claims some New Testament books were written by 'people pretending to be apostles'
by whereami inwas the bible forged?
author claims some new testament books were written by 'people pretending to be apostles'.
by daily mail reporter.
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whereami
I like Bart Ehrman, but he churns out these books that seem to say the same thing over and over again. I hope I am wrong about this one, but I read 'Misquoting Jesus' and took a look at 'Jesus, Interrupted.' I didn't need to read the same stuff again. 'Misquoting Jesus' was great, though.
OTWO...you could have saved yourself some green backs. I posted his audio books here for free awhile back.
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38% of Americans & Glenn Beck Believe Japan Disaster a Sign From God
by whereami inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iaglg45lac.
glenn beck - "god punished japan with earthquake, tsunami".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1dxldfxiwu&feature=related.
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whereami
Hey freydo why not go shit on someone else's post. Or better yet, go spread your crap over at paradise cafe.
Where do these nutcases come from?
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I'm Starting To Understand Atheist and Evolution
by Philadelphia Ponos infor many years i was sincerely perplexed when someone told me they believed in the evolution theory or were an atheist.
i never understood how someone could ignore all the evidence for intelligent design and overlook all the holes in the evolution theory.
for example, the human biology clock is synced with the rotation of the earth, the earth is the perfect distance away from the sun to sustain life, the earth has an ozone layer to protect us from the sun's radiation, the earth naturally produces fruits and vegetables to be used for food, our bodies produce enzymes to break down the fruits and vegetables so it can nourish us, the earth produces water and oxygen, etc.
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Admitted!
by Billy the Ex-Bethelite injust wanted to drop in and share the good news that i have been accepted to "the big city university" this fall.
sorry i haven't been around much lately, this is a busy semester as i'm just getting on with a really exciting life.. wow, has my life changed as i look back over the years!
and jwd/jwn has been an important part of the positive direction that my life is now headed.. my previous thread and history are in the private section for members.
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whereami
Good job bud.
Now get out there and get'er done!!!
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Atheist Matt Dillahunty Debates Creationist Ray Comfort (bannana man) on The Atheist Experience
by PublishingCult inray comfort: "dear god!
this parachute is a napsack!".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyzf8smqoxu.
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whereami
Thanks PC. I was just going to post this.
Poor Ray. He really tries his best.
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Was the Bible forged? Author claims some New Testament books were written by 'people pretending to be apostles'
by whereami inwas the bible forged?
author claims some new testament books were written by 'people pretending to be apostles'.
by daily mail reporter.
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Was the Bible forged? Author claims some New Testament books were written by 'people pretending to be apostles'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 4:34 AM on 27th March 2011A work of fiction? Bart D Ehrman claims several New Testament books were actually written by people pretending to be apostles
Parts of the Bible were written by people who lied about their identity, an author has claimed.
Bart D Ehrman claims many books of the New Testament were forged by people pretending to be the apostles Peter, Paul or James.
Writing in the Huffington Post, Professor Ehrman, best selling author of 'Misquoting Jesus' and 'Jesus, Interrupted', said religious scholars were well aware of the 'lies' of the Bible.
While some were happy to acknowledge them others refer to them as 'pseudepigrapha' - meaning a falsely attributed work -, he wrote.
In his new book , Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are, Professor Ehrman claims The Second Epistle of Peter - or 2 Peter - was forged.
'...scholars everywhere - except for our friends among the fundamentalists - will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book.
'Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter,' he writes.
He then suggests scholars who say it was acceptable in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of someone else, are wrong.
'If you look at what ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even in Christian circles,' Professor Ehrman writes.
Many scholars think six of the 13 letters allegedly written by Paul were actually authored by somebody else claiming to be Paul, Professor Ehrman claims.
Assumed identity: Professor Ehrman claims someone posing as St Peter, right, wrote 2 Peter, and another posing as St Paul, left, wrote six of his 13 letters
'In the ancient world, books like that were labelled as pseudoi - lies,' he writes.
Professor Ehrman also claims the author of the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul but in actual fact was someone living after Paul had died.
The author then used the apostle's name to address a problem he saw in church, according to Professor Ehrman.
'Women were speaking out, exercising authority and teaching men. That had to stop,' he writes.
Agenda: Professor Erhman claims whoever wrote 1 Timothy was trying to put women in their place by citing the garden of Eden as an example of what can happen when women are in charge
'The author told women to be silent and submissive, and reminded his readers about what happened the first time a woman was allowed to exercise authority over a man, in that little incident in the garden of Eden.
'No, the author argued, if women wanted to be saved, they were to have babies (1 Tim. 2:11-15).'
Paul is known as one of history's great misogynists, largely based on this passage from the Bible.
But Professor Ehrman argues this label is not necessarily justified because he wasn't the one to write it.
'And why does it matter? Because the passage is still used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women,' writes Professor Ehrman.
'Why are there no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today that do not allow women even to speak?
'In no small measure it is because Paul allegedly taught that women had to be silent, submissive and pregnant.
'Except that the person who taught this was not Paul, but someone lying about his identity so that his readers would think he was Paul.'
Professor Ehrman then goes on to write how the Bible is actually filled with the need for 'truth' but many of its writers were telling a lie.
'It appears that some of the New Testament writers, such as the authors of 2 Peter, 1 Timothy and Ephesians, felt they were perfectly justified to lie in order to tell the truth,' he writes.
'But we today can at least evaluate their claims and realise just how human, and fallible, they were.'
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Paul, leading authority on Christianity, does NOT quote Jesus!
by Terry inpaul's letters practically invent christianity.. the gospels trickled in after him.. paul never walked with jesus and yet explains him.. never a quote from the master at all.. yet, paul is such a maven.. if jesus couldn't be bothered to actually reveal what he was all about to his apostles with whom he ate, drank, spoke and slept---why this persecutor, saul?.
the apostles heard every word jesus spoke and were willing to die for him.. paul didn't--yet--miraculously explained every detail of the entire history of god's purpose including his messiah.. .
can anybody provide a non-gimmick answer?.
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whereami
You might find this interesting:
Was the Bible forged? Author claims some New Testament books were written by 'people pretending to be apostles'
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 4:34 AM on 27th March 2011A work of fiction? Bart D Ehrman claims several New Testament books were actually written by people pretending to be apostles
Parts of the Bible were written by people who lied about their identity, an author has claimed.
Bart D Ehrman claims many books of the New Testament were forged by people pretending to be the apostles Peter, Paul or James.
Writing in the Huffington Post, Professor Ehrman, best selling author of 'Misquoting Jesus' and 'Jesus, Interrupted', said religious scholars were well aware of the 'lies' of the Bible.
While some were happy to acknowledge them others refer to them as 'pseudepigrapha' - meaning a falsely attributed work -, he wrote.
In his new book , Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are, Professor Ehrman claims The Second Epistle of Peter - or 2 Peter - was forged.
'...scholars everywhere - except for our friends among the fundamentalists - will tell you that there is no way on God's green earth that Peter wrote the book.
'Someone else wrote it claiming to be Peter,' he writes.
He then suggests scholars who say it was acceptable in the ancient world for someone to write a book in the name of someone else, are wrong.
'If you look at what ancient people actually said about the practice, you'll see that they invariably called it lying and condemned it as a deceitful practice, even in Christian circles,' Professor Ehrman writes.
Many scholars think six of the 13 letters allegedly written by Paul were actually authored by somebody else claiming to be Paul, Professor Ehrman claims.
Assumed identity: Professor Ehrman claims someone posing as St Peter, right, wrote 2 Peter, and another posing as St Paul, left, wrote six of his 13 letters
'In the ancient world, books like that were labelled as pseudoi - lies,' he writes.
Professor Ehrman also claims the author of the book of 1 Timothy claimed to be Paul but in actual fact was someone living after Paul had died.
The author then used the apostle's name to address a problem he saw in church, according to Professor Ehrman.
'Women were speaking out, exercising authority and teaching men. That had to stop,' he writes.
Agenda: Professor Erhman claims whoever wrote 1 Timothy was trying to put women in their place by citing the garden of Eden as an example of what can happen when women are in charge
'The author told women to be silent and submissive, and reminded his readers about what happened the first time a woman was allowed to exercise authority over a man, in that little incident in the garden of Eden.
'No, the author argued, if women wanted to be saved, they were to have babies (1 Tim. 2:11-15).'
Paul is known as one of history's great misogynists, largely based on this passage from the Bible.
But Professor Ehrman argues this label is not necessarily justified because he wasn't the one to write it.
'And why does it matter? Because the passage is still used by church leaders today to oppress and silence women,' writes Professor Ehrman.
'Why are there no women priests in the Catholic Church? Why are women not allowed to preach in conservative evangelical churches? Why are there churches today that do not allow women even to speak?
'In no small measure it is because Paul allegedly taught that women had to be silent, submissive and pregnant.
'Except that the person who taught this was not Paul, but someone lying about his identity so that his readers would think he was Paul.'
Professor Ehrman then goes on to write how the Bible is actually filled with the need for 'truth' but many of its writers were telling a lie.
'It appears that some of the New Testament writers, such as the authors of 2 Peter, 1 Timothy and Ephesians, felt they were perfectly justified to lie in order to tell the truth,' he writes.
'But we today can at least evaluate their claims and realise just how human, and fallible, they were.'
