Posts by iconoclastic

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Major events that Bible did not foretell!

by iconoclastic in

jws feel that their strength lies in the power of bible to foretell.

however, an impartial analysis would show that bibles prophecies are too general, and yet some of the major developments in the world scene were not figured in its propheciesespecially those that are very much needed for what it calls last days.

to mention a few:.

iconoclastic

Dear SecretSlaveClass

I agree with you that in many wars there were civilian casualties, and there might have been civilians ALSO who were targeted. In other words, in wars, civilians are also killed.

But a war that is targeting the innocent is what terrorism is, as being practiced now. And in terrorism, defense personnel too may be killed but not as prime target (just as civilians are also killed in the normal war not as prime target).

This is what I said as the marked difference! Casualty may be less than that of world wars, but threat perception the terrorism has created is more than that of all those normal wars. Everyone on the earth lives in fear now. Even the President of the sole Super Power should sleep is determined by them—He needs a no-fly zone above his residence even when he visits other countries). Travel has become extremely difficult even for the former president of the largest democracy in the world. (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Former-President-APJ-Abdul-Kalam-frisked-twice-in-US/articleshow/10714158.cms)

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Elusive happiness teaches a hidden truth!

by iconoclastic in

many seek happiness externally and many a time assign others the possession of their happiness.

when they derive a sort of happiness from external sources, they dont feel satisfied, hence jump to the next and then to the next .... in contrast, jesus said gods kingdom (or real happiness) is within (entos) you.

this cannot be misinterpreted as jesus being the king of the kingdom was amidst them as jws do.

iconoclastic

The Rebel,

Nicely put!

That’s all what I wanted to convey. Many feel that ‘If I reach there, I will be happy’—but truth is that you can be happy even now, whatever you do, do it with 100% involvement. Like in Examination Hall, 3-hours will pass like three minute. In ego there is no peace—and ego is just a thought which can easily be overcome or done away with if one wants to.

Have a great day!

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Major events that Bible did not foretell!

by iconoclastic in

jws feel that their strength lies in the power of bible to foretell.

however, an impartial analysis would show that bibles prophecies are too general, and yet some of the major developments in the world scene were not figured in its propheciesespecially those that are very much needed for what it calls last days.

to mention a few:.

iconoclastic

Dear Cofty

Whoever contributes to global warming, terrorism, abortion as a birth-control means, sexual abuse, molestation or anything like that you may cite will reap appropriate consequence—I agree with you. Everyone is free to do what he likes, but no one is free to evade its consequences (Galatians 6:7)

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Major events that Bible did not foretell!

by iconoclastic in

jws feel that their strength lies in the power of bible to foretell.

however, an impartial analysis would show that bibles prophecies are too general, and yet some of the major developments in the world scene were not figured in its propheciesespecially those that are very much needed for what it calls last days.

to mention a few:.

iconoclastic

Dear Ruby456,

The category of women undergoing abortion for the reasons cited by you could be very few in number, and they are exceptions. At this time of what is called Information Age, a number of that size (which is more than double the size of Australia’s population) is inexcusable. What if we add the case of abortions that go unreported?

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Major events that Bible did not foretell!

by iconoclastic in

jws feel that their strength lies in the power of bible to foretell.

however, an impartial analysis would show that bibles prophecies are too general, and yet some of the major developments in the world scene were not figured in its propheciesespecially those that are very much needed for what it calls last days.

to mention a few:.

iconoclastic

JWs feel that their strength lies in the power of Bible to foretell. However, an impartial analysis would show that Bible’s prophecies are too general, and yet some of the major developments in the world scene were not figured in its prophecies—especially those that are very much needed for what it calls “Last Days.” To mention a few:

1) Talking about the end of the world has been the work of religious people so far. But now it is also done by Government Agencies: “NASA WARNS NOTHING CAN STOP DANGEROUS SEA LEVEL RISE.” (http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002383837, 31/8/2015) “Ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica are melting faster than ever, and oceans are warming and expanding much more rapidly than they have in years past. Right now we have committed to probably more than three feet [one meter] of sea level rise… there is no reason to expect that ice sheets will melt at the same pace as they did in the past. According to the laws of physics, they will deteriorate faster. And they already are.” (http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2015/08/27/world/science-health-world/ice-sheets-thaw-speed-sea-level-rise-threatening-florida-tokyo-pacific-isles-nasa-scientists/#.VhtjMNKqqko) “In 2013, global CO2 emissions due to fossil fuel use (and cement production) were 36 gigatonnes (36000000000 metric tons); this is 61% higher than 1990 (the Kyoto Protocol reference year) and 2.3% higher than 2012” (http://co2now.org/Current-CO2/CO2-Now/global-carbon-emissions.html) Situation is likely to continue to worsen as religious leaders and politicians are dependent on the money business people donate to them.

2) Targeting the innocent people who are in no way connected with conflicted parties is a marked departure from conventional war-pattern, and it goes on increasing globally despite the combined effort of virtually all world governments. (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/wrost-year-global-terrorism-2014-article-1.2130490) This too Bible did not foresee.

3) Interestingly, there is a prophecy that backfired on the Bible. “Never. Can a mother forget her nursing child? Can she feel no love for the child she has borne? But even if that were possible, I would not forget you.” (Isaiah 49:15) Here a mother forsaking her child is spoken as an exception that may happen too rarely. According to WHO, every year in the world there are an estimated 40-50 million abortions. (http://www.worldometers.info/abortions/) No war has killed that many innocent lives in a year. Yet this happens every year, in this part of the history.

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Elusive happiness teaches a hidden truth!

by iconoclastic in

many seek happiness externally and many a time assign others the possession of their happiness.

when they derive a sort of happiness from external sources, they dont feel satisfied, hence jump to the next and then to the next .... in contrast, jesus said gods kingdom (or real happiness) is within (entos) you.

this cannot be misinterpreted as jesus being the king of the kingdom was amidst them as jws do.

iconoclastic

Cofty,

You cannot simply dismiss the ways of nature calling it “silly superstitions. Fuck off.” Nature acts like the statue kept in the courts (white lady with a black ribbon tied around her eyes). She sees everyone and every nation either as giver of happiness or giver of unhappiness, and does not seek approval of anybody before she sends back what individuals/nations send out. For example, see what nature did to a great nation. Brahmanas (combination of two words: brah = great + manas = mind) in India were very good in the beginning manifesting a great mind of viewing all with equality, and country flourished. When the Brahmanas turned into a superior class treating others as “untouchables,” nature brought over 700 foreign aggressions over that country—making the condition of that class of people miserable. If you want to see, you can see this everywhere in the case of individuals and nations.

You can delete me in imitation of JW disfellowshipping--that is your choice. But I am an individual, with individual views--having nothing to do with any organization.

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Elusive happiness teaches a hidden truth!

by iconoclastic in

many seek happiness externally and many a time assign others the possession of their happiness.

when they derive a sort of happiness from external sources, they dont feel satisfied, hence jump to the next and then to the next .... in contrast, jesus said gods kingdom (or real happiness) is within (entos) you.

this cannot be misinterpreted as jesus being the king of the kingdom was amidst them as jws do.

iconoclastic

cofty & SecretSlaveClass

You both are indirectly admitting that you have nothing to refute what is brought out in the OP. Yet it is not a matter of joy for me you, because it seems you are not aware that nature ensures that what you give to others return to you in some form in due course of time.

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Elusive happiness teaches a hidden truth!

by iconoclastic in

many seek happiness externally and many a time assign others the possession of their happiness.

when they derive a sort of happiness from external sources, they dont feel satisfied, hence jump to the next and then to the next .... in contrast, jesus said gods kingdom (or real happiness) is within (entos) you.

this cannot be misinterpreted as jesus being the king of the kingdom was amidst them as jws do.

iconoclastic

Cofty,

There is a solution. Until now you have only heard from others. Now experiment yourself, just like a scientist does. Be seated in a comfortable posture. Withdraw your mind within—and you will experience your sixth sense (intuition) beginning to manifest itself, and will also find yourself pulled towards the vastness of your soul, the immaterial substratum of your physical body. You will gradually lose sight of all mental and physical boundaries. At this time you will feel like a person on his first airplane flight leaving behind all customary landmarks and soaring into a wall-less space. Keep going till you get linked with your Heavenly Father. Have a sweet conversation with Him. You will come back fully convinced that you are a spirit being in this physical body, and there is a loving heavenly Father, the Supreme Soul, who helps those seeking Him and wanting to know the truth.

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Elusive happiness teaches a hidden truth!

by iconoclastic in

many seek happiness externally and many a time assign others the possession of their happiness.

when they derive a sort of happiness from external sources, they dont feel satisfied, hence jump to the next and then to the next .... in contrast, jesus said gods kingdom (or real happiness) is within (entos) you.

this cannot be misinterpreted as jesus being the king of the kingdom was amidst them as jws do.

iconoclastic

Dear doofdaddy & Saintbertholdt, Be realistic, no one will dare to come here to recruit. Even if anyone does dare to come with that intent, he will never come again when he receives the kind of comments I receive. Hence I am sorry to say that you are behaving like a person who eats banana skin, throwing the banana into the trash-box.

However see the wise attitude shown by Ruby456 some days before, on my post on DEATH IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE FEARED:

“btw I am not a supporter of either Carl Sagan or iconoclastic. I just like reading about such debates and the different ideas they generate as most of this occupies a controversial arena which can enrich us.”

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Elusive happiness teaches a hidden truth!

by iconoclastic in

many seek happiness externally and many a time assign others the possession of their happiness.

when they derive a sort of happiness from external sources, they dont feel satisfied, hence jump to the next and then to the next .... in contrast, jesus said gods kingdom (or real happiness) is within (entos) you.

this cannot be misinterpreted as jesus being the king of the kingdom was amidst them as jws do.

iconoclastic

Due to power-failure signal, I had to stop abruptly. Hence here is an addendum:

When I did my marine engineering, one of my professors was a visionary. He instilled in me the above line of reasoning. He used to say that in his native tongue, the word for good conduct is sadachar which is a combination of two words (sada = always + char = performing something with 100% involvement). Such action is naturally good and effective and one who performs action in this manner is always happy, he is in kingdom of God—something that Jesus too implied.

He also said that the word for coconut is nariyal (from the root nar, man) which means both—man and coconut—have some things in common. Coconut has three eyes—two are useless and one real through which the sprouting happens. Similarly, man has two eyes which are in a sense useless as they are capable of seeing only the superficial, and has one inner eye of understanding that sees the eternal (essence) behind the ephemeral (details). One who sees himself as eternal spirit in material body, he will also see others as eternal spirits in material bodies—which would mean he would always see good in others and do good to others, and will never harm others and feel that no can harm him either. Also, coconut has a hard shell which symbolizes ego in man. When it receives a hard hit, the shell is broken—sweet water flows. So are with people—when they receive a hard hit, their ego is broken—after that sweet behaviour starts freely flowing. Thus egoless living means kingdom of God. This explains custom of breaking the coconut before house-warming ceremony which symbolizes the concept that “from now onward members of this family will live without ego bringing sweet behaviour.”