some of you know me now and i just thought you might like to know how i got to know jehovahs witnesses and whats an sda bloke doing on a jw board.
well it all started in the mid 80s when i got to be friends with a jw bloke who was working bricklaying for my dad invited me to the memorial.
i said i would go but i felt i would be happier going with someone else that i knew better to go with me there as i didnt quite know what to expect there.
Ahhh...thanks for the clarification!
Too bad your friend couldn't get over you bringing the minister guy. I think it is great he has an open mind.
Correct me if I am wrong (as I often am, heehee!) But didn't the SDA church and JWs have a pretty close history? Weren't they spun off from the same religion?
i sometimes think there may be people who will be largely unaffected by the organization crashing down, by virtue of them actually being good hearted people.
naturally the psychological shock will be there if they didn't see it coming at all, but i really think for some people the religion doesn't touch the core of who they are.
(actually, i think that's the case for everyone, but since this is a free country you're free to believe otherwise ;) ) so, do you know anyone like that?
Intro,
Excellent point about lack of hunger! When I really got 'hungry' is when I really started to become disillusioned and looking outside the Hall for some answers...and a life!
When you think about it, when someone eats junkfood all one's life, they usually balk at having to switch to a healthful diet. It doesn't always taste good at first, but in the long run leads to a much better diet. I think many JWs need a new diet.
funny how the prospect of christmas takes me back to my pre-dub days as a 7 year old.
christmas eve was spent making my present request list, duly guided by both my parents as to what to ask for.
once completed, the coal fire was stoked up and the precious list was allowed to be carried up the chimney where waiting elves promptly delivered my requests to santa.
I have always like the "holiday season" even while a JW. I enjoyed seeing worldy people being nice to each other, and the sales, etc., hahaha.
Actually, even though my family didn't stop christmas until I was 5 years old I really did not miss it as a kid because I was thoroughly convinced that the reasons we did not celebrate it outweighed not getting gifts. Plus, my family was so huge and so poor that I think it was almost a relief to my nonwitness dad that we did not celebrate xmas.
I do enjoy it very much now. However, the only thing is that I find myself telling my husband we have to limit the number gifts to our kids. He REALLY likes to go over board! I have found that last xmas was better because the kids got just enough presents to be really excited, but not so much that they were overwhelmed. Besides, I want to instill in them that Christmas is more than just gimmee, gimmee, gmmee! It always bothered me to see that side of christmas.
This will be my son's fourth xmas. Because my witness mom owns the apartment we rent, we do not decorate the outside out of respect for her. (We live in a neighborhood with a lot of her witness friends.) However, you can see our tree through the window. She has not said anything to me about it, and stays away from that conversation altogether.
Does anyone have a good suggestions on how to make Christmas more than just a gift getting/receiving holiday for kids? My husband is not religious, and I have no problem with Christmas' "pagan" roots, because I see it as just another assimilation of religion/culture. We won't be doing anything really religious. But I would like to find some more meaning for this time of year for my kids.
Thanks!!!
some of you know me now and i just thought you might like to know how i got to know jehovahs witnesses and whats an sda bloke doing on a jw board.
well it all started in the mid 80s when i got to be friends with a jw bloke who was working bricklaying for my dad invited me to the memorial.
i said i would go but i felt i would be happier going with someone else that i knew better to go with me there as i didnt quite know what to expect there.
What is SDA?
there are some really weird and interesting names on this site.
just out of interest, lets swap details of how we selected our chosen "stage name", it could be fun!.
i chose "englishman" when i first started to lurk at h20.
I was born with spock eyebrows. Although teased as a kid, I refused to pluck or shape them like most girls would. I have 10 bros and sisters, so I guess I liked standing out.
i've seen loads of live acts, back when i was a "young person asking" i watched the crystals, heinz, johnny kid and the pirates, brenda lee, joe brown and others all on one show.
so very innocent!.
come my eventual departure from dubdom, i resolved to see all these bad people playing their music live.
I saw Macy Gray and Santana last year in concert. Great shows!
i sometimes think there may be people who will be largely unaffected by the organization crashing down, by virtue of them actually being good hearted people.
naturally the psychological shock will be there if they didn't see it coming at all, but i really think for some people the religion doesn't touch the core of who they are.
(actually, i think that's the case for everyone, but since this is a free country you're free to believe otherwise ;) ) so, do you know anyone like that?
If you mean individual JWs, I know many, many that are good hearted, and very pleasant to be around. It is just if you get into the gray areas or cross a JW line they have to follow their on consciences and pull back.
The whole UN thing will go unnoticed by millions of JWs. The WTBS will brush it under the rug as just another attempt by apostates and Satan to persecute them. I believe this because if I were still in the org. I would hang on every word the WTBS puts out justifying it self. And of course, the majority will not dare to read anything unbiased or contrary to the WTBS view.
For those that are certainly satisfied with being JWS (ie., my mother) I don't really bring stuff up. She has been in over 25 years, and has sacrificed so much for her faith, that I really believe it would crush her spirit and kill her if she came to the realization that I do. That could be another reason so many JWs cannot bear to part. It would kill them emotionally.
looking back 50 years ago .
50 years ago the watchtower made these comments regarding charity.
it is quite interesting to read in the aftermath of the september 11 tragedy.. .
I have to admit that I have seen charitable acts by individual witnesses and witness families over the years. There were a few occaisions growing up that my family were helped out with food when my father was ill and could not work. It was much appreciated!
However, it has always saddened me that there was not more of an organized effort to make sure that there are things on hand to help out those in need, on both a small private scale, and larger scale. The WTBS is always quick to point out how they send trucks full of stuff in natural disasters, etc.., but nothing is really ever done by witnesses as a group on the local level.
There are hundreds of people in our local area that volunteer in soup kitchens and other charities. I doubt very much any of them do it for the publicity. It is too bad the JW organization never encouraged people to do nonreligious charity work at a local level. It would really help the JW reputation in this area...and teach JWs how to make a difference in life.
i don't think someone meant for me to get this reply .
hi (name removed).
i thought you might be interested in this page: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=13759.
Right now I am plotting to highjack an M&M shipment...
i don't think someone meant for me to get this reply .
hi (name removed).
i thought you might be interested in this page: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=13759.
Laura,
That would come in handy. Actually, I was supposed to be induced today, but they have no free beds at the hospital, so I have a day or so extra on my hands. I wonder what I should start plotting?
