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  Who's Going to the Memorial??

  by Prisca in

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  just wondering..... for those of us who are inactive, or have serious doubts, etc etc... are you going to the memorial, even though you don't fully agree with how they explain things?.

  anyone planning to have their own at home?.

  or are you still planning on going, even if it's to say g'day to long "lost" friends?.

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  I haven't decided for sure yet. My husband wants to go, but for me I'm having a lot of turmoil inside. He says he wants to go to observe Jesus' death, but I told him for me I don't think that the way they do it is necessarily what Jesus had in mind. Why does Jesus say to keep doing this in rememberance of me, and the disciples ate and drank? Well the WTBTS would of course say that this because they were of the 144,000, and they know this how exactly? Because of their deciding which parts of Revelation to take literally and those which are figurative? How convenient for them to pick and choose those which fit their particular beliefs. I told him to go but that I probably wouldn't. This religion bothers me in the fact that you have to agree with everything 100% to be considered acceptable by Jehovah.<according to them *not* me, lol> It's not a religion where you can be half-hearted in their beliefs and be accepted as truly worthy. I remember looking around at the memorial for many years and seeing folks that you only see once a year, and thinking self righteously to myself how *sad* for them that they only worshipped Jehovah once a year. I am so glad to be able to see clearly for the first time in my LIFE that there are other ways to serve God besides that which is dicatated by the WTBTS as being the only *true* way. As we were discussing things last evening I told my husband that they are really beginning to remind me of the pharisees. Especially in their saying that their beliefs are the only *correct* way to worship God. I think they need to read Matthew 15:9, where Jesus tells the pharisees "It is in vain that they keep worshipping me because they teach commands of men as doctrines"
  My husband will probably go, and I may or may not go...but if I do it will probably be my last time. I feel bad for him because he is a born and bred JW as am I, and it's so very hard to think that something you have been told from the time you took your first breath is the *TRUTH* may in fact be seriously flawed. For many in our situation it is easier to just go with the flow and not make waves, to basically not think...why should you have to when the GB is doing all the thinking and decison making for you? But I can't take it anymore. I told him that I can't live a lie...being half in and half out. I'm sorry, I don't mean to whine, it's just that this is SO hard!

  Thanks for listening.

  A very confused and distressed Eyes

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  You Might be a JW if........

  by waiting in

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  snatched from jan groenveld:you might be a jw if.... .... "pioneer" is not a stereo, "new light" is not something in the housewares department, and "tract" has nothing to do with land or farming.. .... you know when nissan 14 of the jewish calendar lands in the gregorian calendar from year to year, and yet you commonly forget your own birthday.. .... "memorial day" isn't in may.. .... you spent days at a baseball stadium, never saw a ball, and didn't even have a beer.. .... you think "formal clothing" and "civic center" belong in the same.

  sentence.. .... you wash windows or cars for a living and still own five suits.. .... you think nothing of letting your friends stop by to use the bathroom.. .... you know the cleanliness of every coffee shop for four towns around.. .... you think 2-door vehicles aren't really cars.. .... you go to home depot and go down the aisle where doors are displayed and you feel compelled to knock on them.. .... you can't buy a pair of shoes without thinking about how comfortable they will need to be while walking residential streets in 95-degree heat.. .... you have a tendency to refer to books by color instead by title.. .... you have a shelf just for 192-page books.. .... you can't pick up a book, or anything else to read, without picking up a pencil or highlighter too.. .... you think it is complimentary to refer to someone as "a study".. .... you have "get-togethers" rather than "parties".. .... after one of such "get-togethers" at your home, your house is not a mess and you have more food than when you started.. .... you realize things are getting worse, and you're thrilled.

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  Still laughing, waiting!!! That was really funny. And so true!

  Thanks

  eyes

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  Hello.

  by gloria in

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  i'm not sure i'm putting this in the right place.

  i'm even a little hesitant to do this but i have finally decided to try, for a while at least.

  a lot of the comments that i have read seem somewhat harsh toward the witnesses.

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  Hey Java,

  I loved your post on the difference between religion and truth. Thought those were excellent points you brought out.

  Thanks!

  Eyes

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  Should Christians drink cappucino?

  by ozziepost in

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  should a true christian drink a cappucino?.

  perhaps you have never considered the matter, but what are the origins of this popular beverage?.

  the name cappucino is derived from the word to describe the bones of 4,000 capuchin friars in rome, italy.

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  Hey! I say if kids can't celebrate their birthdays 'cause the two listed in the bible weren't cool...Then it stands to reason if cappuino is associated with such heinousness, we are all behooved as christians to avoid the evil wicked beverage

  BRB.....have to get my coffee

  LOL

  Thanks for the funny post Ozzie

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  "What can you do to stop JW control in you...

  by LDH in

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  for eyes:.

  1. stop referring to yourself as being raised "in the truth.

  " call it what is.

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  LOL!! You guys keep me laughing

  <And making me hungry with all this talk about pizza!>

  Things have been crazy around here the past few days so I haven't been on as much as usual <online that is> I have some new neighbors who have been visiting a LOT. Between them and the impromptu shepharding calls every other day, I'm just one hoppin' momma. Sorry 'bout not posting sooner Lisa See how I am? I'm always causing trouble. Hope we can start the thread again too.

  Thanks!

  Eyes

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  "What can you do to stop JW control in you...

  by LDH in

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  for eyes:.

  1. stop referring to yourself as being raised "in the truth.

  " call it what is.

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  Hey all, I asked for suggestions. No one was trying to tell me what to do or not to do! So there was no offense taken at all.

  Thanks

  Eyes

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  "What can you do to stop JW control in you...

  by LDH in

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  for eyes:.

  1. stop referring to yourself as being raised "in the truth.

  " call it what is.

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  Hey LDH,

  Thanks for the post It's true what you said about the lingo. Being raised as a JW you don't think about how odd some of the terminology is. Things like "The new order", "Pioneering", "Kingdom Hall", "The Organization" etc.

  Still trying to think of some other ways.....

  I know I'm that I'm not so afraid to speak up anymore. A few elders came by the other day to encourage me to return to the KH and they read a scripture from Haggai 2:7 that says "And I will rock all the nations, and the desirable things of all the nations must come in, and I will fill this house with glory, Jehovah of armies has said." The brother said to me "To whom do you think this scripture refers? Who would be desirable in JH's eyes?" And I replied "well, if God sees every sparrow when it falls and man is that much more precious in his eyes, I think all mankind would be important and worthy" But unfortunately I gave the *wrong* answer as he said "well actually this scripture is referring to the *great crowd* lol. And it's time for another elder *POP* quiz hehehe. Anyhow I guess they were trying to encourage me by seeing that I was *worthy* enough to be shaken out of the nations into Gods house <If only I would be a good girl and get my butt back to the hall> But I digress! I'm getting stronger bit by bit and I appreciate everyones support and suggestions.

  Eyes

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  "What can you do to stop JW control in you...

  by LDH in

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  for eyes:.

  1. stop referring to yourself as being raised "in the truth.

  " call it what is.

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  Thanks Amicus Was a bit confused there as to waitings reply as I was unaware of the previous troubles.

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  What should the WTBS do?!?!

  by LDH in

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  well guys sorry i haven't participated much lately, i've been really busy.

  but, i do have a question that i would really appreciate all of your input on.. it is no secret that young people are leaving jws faster and faster.

  it is no secret that most jws are disappointed, and hurt by lack of prophecy fulfillment.. so here's what i was thinking: i'm going to post some very personal thoughts on what *i* think they need to do in order to stop the loss of almost 50,000 disfellowshipped and probably 4x that to inactivity.

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  Amen LDH, that would be a great thread for folks like me and others who are just now trying to break free. And it's got to be one of the hardest things I have ever done. The WTBTS say that people who leave, leave because they are *apostate* or it is the easy way out, that they leave so they can *do what they want* But that is the most untrue part about it. Leaving the WTBTS, after years of mind control takes great strength and the help of others, like those on this board, who are willing to lend their support, listening and encouragement. SO I say let's start that thread :)

  Eyes

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  ROFLOL

  by mommy in

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  i have so enjoyed the last 12 plus hours on this forum.

  it was like playing tag.

  thank you danielle on the things i had forgotten about the wtbts....their closed mindedness, everything can be answered from a past publication from wtbts, the ability to label someone you don't know, thinking fast on your feet, doing everything daddy tells us, the elders are the"doctors and lawyers" every good jw girl should strive to marry,being scared of dating,seeing demons in everything.. well i just wanted to say thank you for the laughs,it is good for the soul:).

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  Amen Wendy!!!

  I was thinking the same thing. I'm so glad to be from the outside looking in now, rather then the warped view from the other side.

  eyes

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