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Theodore Jaracz was the keynote speaker at my convention...

by under_believer in

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we just had our convention at the memorial colosseum in portland, or.

good old teddyj was our keynote speaker.

i can tell you right now that the ol' boy's still alive and kicking.

flipper

Underbeliever- Mr. Flipper here. The governing body is so arrogant in their dissing of higher education. My self righteous older sister (ex gilead graduate hasn't talked for 4 years to her own 31 year old daughter, my niece because she went to law school at Berekely , Ca. She graduated with honors, but do ya think my sister would acknowledge it? Naw! She's pissed off that her daughter stopped going to meetings and left the org! My own youngest daughter went to the trouble to get her registered dental assistant certificate, then decided she didn't like working among"worldy" people,(actually she has social skill problems,thanks to jw mom), got married to a brother at 18 who is an electrician. Should be set for life, right? When I asked her why she didn't want to pursue her dental trade, she said," Oh! well Jehovah is providing for me, I'm ok. My husband is working that should be good enough." What can you do as a parent but throw your hands up in the air! Peace out, Mr. Flipper of the "set a fire under your kid's ass class!"

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We'll All Be Dead Someday

by nvrgnbk in

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and with that thought............everybody have a great weekend!.

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flipper

I want to be freeze dried, mounted on a metal post and planted in the lawn with some plastic flamingoes. If I was rich it would be a condition of inheritance for my heirs - if they wanted the house they would have to keep me on display. mrs flipper

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Should Jehovahs Witnesses Be Held Responsible For Shunning?

by The wanderer in

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another perspective:should jehovahs witnesses be held responsible for shunning?looking back to the time of which when i was one of jehovahs witnesses .

i recall my viewpoint about apostatesi despised them thoroughly.

thewatchtower called for shunning all of those who rejected gods .

flipper

Damned right they should be held responsible. It goes totally against natural human affection which should be shown to family and friends. Sorry, there is no debate about this, no 2 ways of looking at it, it's just plain wrong and evil!!! Need any clarification? Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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Shunned

by Anti-Christ in

just wanted to share something with you all.

about a month ago i call my very active jw father and ask him a few questions about an awake article (the famous one oct 8 1968) and about the "obedience and submission" article and to call me back and give me some information.. well he did not call back and friday my sister in law calls me and tells me that some jw are saying i am an apostate.

i ask were did they get that from ( because i have not talk to any jw about my findings, except my dad) and to my surprise she said my dad.

flipper

Antichrist- Mr. Flipper here. I really feel you. My heart goes out to you. I have an older brother , self righteous ex-Bethel elder and older sister ex gilead graduate who won't even have me in their home, even though I'm not dfed, just stopped going to meetings 4 years ago. For a parent to say what he did to you, means he is controlled by a devilish, demonistic mind controlling cult. I'm a ex- witness but I would never say that to my witness daughters. Just because people have the label on them that they are alledgedly "christians" does not make it so. If you ever want to talk antichrist feel free to pm me, I'll give you my phone number. Peace to you my friend. Peace out, Mr.Flipper

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We had a JW at the door today...how I handled it..

by megsmomma in

my first instinct was to tell him to go away and my husband was going to answer the door and i said, just tell him we are disfellowshipped.

(i am da'd....he hasn't ever been, but, he is "guilty by association" and conciders himself da'd too...).

so, it is one older man and he is handing out the "follow the christ" convention invitation.

flipper

Megsmomma- Mr. Flipper here. Great job you did there! You sure gave that witness something to think about! Like most witnesses, he probably didn't know about the child molestation settlements or other things you mentioned. They really are dumb as rocks and don't know how to reply to the voice of reason. I recently had an elder befuddled at my doorstep for 30 minutes as he tried to drone on about why the elders don't report child molestation. Great job, maybe some seeds of "real truth "will seep into their heads! Peace out, Mr. flipper

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Elders' wives and elders' kids - any different from the RnF?

by Inquisitor in

elder's wives - the general impression of them in my congregation is that they are not to be messed with.

ews are all smiles in front of guests but brutally unaccomodating to more familiar brothers and sisters.

they put much effort in making "good" comments at the meetings, with the occasional veiled insult directed at certain individuals (i suppose this is the only outlet for a lady in jehovah's patriarchy).

flipper

Inquisitor- Mr. Flipper here. I was an elders son all my life and I felt like everybody else as a teenager and didn't want to be different, but my dad would always remind me that if I wanted to wear my hair a certain length, "remember brother teenage so and so is watching and it could stumble him or make him want to grow his hair long too." I thought it was a crock of $&it! I argued with my dad he shouldn't impose his conciense on mine! Like that got me anywhere!? Being an elders son was hell, because you had so much to live up to, too much. I just wanted to be normal and fade in the background. My dad was city overseer for 30 years, fat chance of that happening! Anyway, now I don't have that burden, thankfully! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

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if you could...

by return visitor in

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meet one person from this forum that you have only communicated with through the forum or pming who would it be and why.

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i'll start off, i would like to meet purplesofa because she seems very thoughtfull, and alway tries to see the possitive and best in others..

flipper

Mr. & Mrs. Flipper would love to meet everybody on this forum. Think it would be great! It would be so cool to hear everybodies experiences that have brought them to this place intheir lives! Peace to you all, Mr. & Mrs. Flipper P.S. Except Micromoose go freeze him in the arctic!

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Pride and Shame- An Interesting Perspective

by nvrgnbk in

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pride and shame: seeing that your behavior arises on its own - out of your particular biologically given traits and your particular career through life, not from a non-material controlling self - might pry you loose from excessive pride and shame.

your successes resulted from personal characteristics given to you in their entirety by nature and nurture, combined with circumstances in which you could express your talents.

likewise, your failures arose not from some weakness of will that could have been otherwise, but out of conditions which can be understood as the natural unfolding of physical and psychological processes.

flipper

Nvr- I concur entirely. Let's see if I get this in layman's terms. Nothing ever to be ashamed about if we try our best and don't succeed at times. And yet, nothing to get too conceited about if we are tremendously successful, as another person in our situation could have done as good, maybe better? Am I getting the drift? I hope? So live life with a balanced view of our successes and failures, helps you keep a modest assessment of our gains in life but not to overeact to our losses. Getting close? Good thread. Love this psychological stuff. Peace to you, Mr. Flipper

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THE WTS: CRASH OR SLOWLY FADE AWAY?

by Seeker4 in

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i was just reading the thread about barbara anderson and perhaps some big news she will publish about the wts.

i agree with those who say that anything barbara has scandalous about the early history of the witnesses, ie: russel or rutherford times, will have zero impact.

that whole era is pretty much dismissed by all witnesses i know.

flipper

Seeker 4- Mr. Flipper here. Mrs. Flipper and my son have discussed this very point about what would make this organization come down! In my humble opinion, for what it's worth, if some members of the governing body were revealed to have scandalously molested kids and it became big public knowledge with witnesses talking about it, then maybe it might get some to leave the org. It would take a scandal of proportions which would hit the front page of the papers not page 45 behind the frozen food section! With all the governing bodies attempts at damage control though it would be tough. They are like rats trying to plug the holes on a sinking ship, so it would take a bomb of a scandal to sink them. It would have to be big and convincing. Your guess is good as mine. All I can say is apostates unite to bring them down! Peace out, Mr. Flipper P.S. We all are open to suggestions!

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How Did you Feel Being Raised as a Jehovah's Witness?

by flipper in

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quite a thought, huh?

i was raised from birth as my family was in it 7 years before i was born ( 1952).

i remember wanting to go out for school sports in high school as my p.e.

flipper

Hello folks, Mr. Flipper here. Sacrificial loon- Yeah, I felt like a ping pong ball too with the vascillating emotions it put you through as a teenager. On the one hand you wanted to do everything the other kids did, but on the other hand you knew if you did some things you'd lose your family. So why do ya think kids sneak around and do stuff? Make out, sex, party? They know the thinder of the gods will come down on them, that's why! Mulan- Yes I know what you mean about regrets with your kids. I have a 22 year old son who thanks me for allowing him the freedom to get out of the cult when he did at 18, he's glad I did too. But when I've tried to talk with my 20 and 19 year old daughters, still witnesses, they say,"Well Dad you raised us to be witnesses so do you expect us to get out of it now?" Sometimes they spellbind me with that, and I don't know what to say. They never learned any critical thinking skills so it makes it hard to talk with them. If I try to say something they will be like," Dad that's apostate thinking". So what do you do? I'm open to suggestions! Love my daughters, just can't reason with them! Peace to you, Mr. Flipper