Thanks for supplying this information ! The WT Society's refusal to release the database list of pedophiles will come back to haunt them. It's already haunting them financially with millions $$$ in penalties, but hopefully it will haunt them with another loss in court on behalf of these victims and at the same time put the hurt on the WT Society so badly reputation wise publicly that the GB won't be able to hide behind their fake " cloak of respectability " anymore. No more excuses. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Article: Window for Child Victims Act sex-abuse lawsuits opens Wednesday: What it means
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.silive.com/news/2019/08/window-for-child-victims-act-sex-abuse-lawsuits-opens-wednesday-what-it-means.html on friday, attorney irwin zalkin held a news conference in manhattan announcing that two alleged victims, heather steele and michael ewing, will file lawsuits in state supreme court in brooklyn on wednesday.
the lawsuits will name as defendants eight members of the governing body of the jehovah’s witnesses (jws).
now located in tuxedo park, n.y., the jws world headquarters occupied a building with a large watchtower sign in brooklyn.
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If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?
by minimus inseriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!
if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.
if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.
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Disparaging the politicians IS disparaging the country, because these particular politicians are standing up for the disenfranchised citizens who are victims of Trumps entire plan of dividing people of America in half based on gender, race, economic status, and how much citizens have invested in Wall street.
The only people Trump wants to make great again is his 35 % base of supporters who want to call him " King " Trump, not President Trump. He's a president for them, not the rest of American citizens. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?
by minimus inseriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!
if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.
if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.
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REDVIP2000- Your statement, " If a person tells a foreigner that he should go back to his country...... " ?? Really ?
These 4 congresswomen are NOT foreigners my friend. They are American citizens ! So yes, it's racist, prejudice rhetoric. And yes, it's also outrageous, stupid, and very exaggerated on Trump's part.
MINIMUS- Oh come on. Trump is exaggerating and lying about these 4 congresswomen, and you know it . Have you ever thought Minimus there might be a reason people are railing against Trump and his presidency ? Ever considered that they might have legitimate complaints ?
Look if you use your reasoning , then like you stated, all the folks living here that didn't like Obama and his presidency should have just left the country during 2008 to 2016, right ? If that's whats expected of Democrats by the Republicans to leave the country if we aren't happy, then shouldn't that same demand have been made and expected of Republicans too during the Obama years ?
If Obama had acted as racist and spreading hate around during his presidency like Trump is doing now- you Republicans would be clamoring for his impeachment definitely. Personally, I think it's a set of double standards by many Trump supporters.
Oh and by the way, no I won't " shush ", I love our Democracy and I'm here for the long haul. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?
by minimus inseriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!
if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.
if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.
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MINIMUS- You got that backwards, Trump's mouth is quicker than his brain. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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If You Criticize A Person of Color Are You A Racist?
by minimus inseriously, it’s getting to a point that you can’t make a negative comment about someone without being charged as a racist, homophobe or sexist!
if you criticize a female, you are obviously sexist.
if you criticize someone who happens to be gay, you must hate homosexuals.
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OK, this isn't fake news. This is actually Donald Trump stating that Cortez , and other brown skinned individual congress women should " go back where they came from " .
This really happened. Not fake news, it's reality. Sick racism. If it's not racist, I don't know what is .
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Are You Happy With The Country You Live In?
by minimus ini live in the usa.
is it perfect!
nope.
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Well, yes I enjoy our country and the freedoms that we do have. But don't enjoy this particular president trying to control and turn our country into a totalitarian regime through his racist, narcissistic , and unjust rules. But I'm hopeful that will soon be rectified in a couple years , or even sooner. The sooner, the better. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Reddit Post: Watchtower Appeals to Supreme Court
by APieceOfShitNamedTate infrom john redwood.... a preview of upcoming news:.
jehovah's witnesses are appealing to the supreme court of the united states, but this time it has nothing to do with preaching or saluting the flag.. it's all about child abuse.. specifically, the protection (or cover-up) of information, documents, and testimony of persons involved in cases of child abuse.. i will be covering this story in the coming weeks and months, but i thought i would share some of this news and try to distill it down as simply as i can.. i'd like to point out first that watchower has appealed to the supreme court in connection with their loss of yet another california child abuse case.
the chance that watchtower's appeal being will be heard by the supreme court is slim, but anything is possible.. what brought this about?.
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Thanks for the update and information. The leaders of the WT Society are just as evil and criminally liable as the leaders of the Catholic church, Scientology, Mormons, or any other religion or cult who puts money, power, and control as more important than the safety and welfare of child abuse victims. It's sick, sick shit. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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The results of the CSA Study article in Kingdom Halls is starting to come in.
by I believe in overlapping inthere are some jws that are calling it quits after today's watchtower study.
experiences are coming in on reddit.. here is one experience caught on video.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3_ndjphv1w.
here is another.. https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/cd2y97/wifes_done_with_wt/.
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It took lots of courage for this lady to do this. I admire her ! Of course she got the typical " in denial " response from the elders trying to corner her like a trapped deer. But some of those JW's in that audience won't forget what she said and will be inspired to do research on the internet now. And that's a good thing. Some may bolt to freedom !
And the JW lady on Reddit's experience leaving due to this WT study ? Bravo ! Well done ! Thanks for posting this thread. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Sacramento Senate Bill & Town Hall Meeting with EX-JW Child Abuse Survivors- March 8th , 2019
by flipper inhttps://www.facebook.com/sarita.piti/posts/2613606355321841.
https://www.facebook.com/roger.bentley.986/posts/526951087814763.
https://www.facebook.com/sarita.piti/posts/2618755001473643.
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With all the talk about the WT Society's latest WT study on child abuse- thought I'd respond to folks on this thread and bump this thread up about what's currently happening in California. The bill to eliminate clergy penitent privilege in California regarding child abuse is currently on " hold " while members of the Sacramento legislature try to formulate another bill that will cover all the bases so the Catholic church and their lobbyists in the ears of politicians , won't be able to squelch it. Until religions stop donating millions $$$ into the pockets of politicians, it's always going to be next to impossible to divide religion from politics. On to your statements :
DAYS of FUTURE PASSED- Yeah, it's incredible how the Catholic church is so full of misinformation , and their followers just deluge protests to eliminating clergy penitent privilege out of devotion to some ancient custom that is not only outdated, but horribly dangerous for child abuse victims. And yes, WT Society has used these excuses for years " have to keep these abuses private " . And now after finally having a WT article discussed at their own meetings in the WT study- wouldn't you know that the WT Society paints a false illusionary picture to it's own JW members about how they handle child abuse ! Unfortunately no big surprise here. WT leaders are always trying to pull the wool over even it's own JW people.
SMIDDY 3- Good point about the WT Society NOT being able to claim clergy penitent privilege because elders on JC committees share all this child abuse information immediately with the Bethel legal department once they receive the information of child abuse situations. The only reason the Catholic church is seeming to get a " golden ticket " here though is because of the huge , powerful money from them influencing political decision. Whether clergy penitent privilege has been a " long standing practice" or " custom " for years certainly doesn't make it right or safe for children who are thrown to the clergy wolves who are these pedophile priests themselves in many instances. And you're right JW elders or even priests cannot be trusted to keep this information to themselves. Humans are humans- they talk. Indeed, not realistic for any child abuse victim to give their personal stories and lives over to these priests or elders and think that the victims best interests will be served. What will be served is the best interest of the Catholic church or WT Society of Jehovah's Witnesses.
XANTHIPPE- Indeed, I'm glad that the bill is only on pause as well. It may seem odd that the JW religion is benefitting from the Catholic church's stand on this- but you know- I put ALL of these religions in the same category. Each religious organization will do what's financially expedient for that particular religious organization. Doesn't matter which religion it is. Money talks. So do the leaders at the top of each of these religions .
JW GONE BAD- You have a good idea to stand up to those elders and say " don't share anything I say with anybody " . One problem though-elders lie. They'll tell whomever they damn well please, all they care about is performing WT functions and being " obedient " to the WT leaders. Perhaps best to just let sleeping dogs lay still. And that's how I view most elders, as sleeping dogs. Until they get awakened by WT Society leaders- then they become WT biting dogs devouring people in the congregations. Scary really. Peace out, Mr. Flipper
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Rejecting JW Message is More Important than Success to Keep Them Indoctrinated
by OnTheWayOut inthe recruiting work of jehovah's witnesses has never been very effective.
such low positive results for such great efforts.
but the members are paying the gas money and expending the hours, so watchtower is not really losing out.i want you to think about the rejection jw's receive, be it a negative response at the door or people ignoring them at the cart.
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Thanks for posting this my friend. Very truly put. JW's constantly revel in sharing stories of how they were rejected out in service so it justifies their false concept that they're being " persecuted " for an imaginary " good cause " . They feel if Jesus got persecuted, so should they, and somehow that implants the thought in their mind that " if it's good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for them " . lol.
What they fail to realize is that much of the negative publicity JW's and the WT Society gets- is true and justified. It's how they try to explain away suffering negative media attention to the horrid child abuse policies within their cult.
Years ago I had a former friend in 2007 ask me why I didn't go back to meetings ? I told him one of the reasons was the awful child abuse policies and the hiding and covering it over with out of court settlements. Then he said, " Well Flipper, you know the news and media are always trying to persecute us for anything. It's an attack from Satan to damage the organization. " I asked him, " What about news of child abuse in the Mormon's ? The Baptists religion ? Catholics ? Is the news media trying to unfairly attack them as well " ? He didn't answer, just made an excuse that it's different. I told him, " it's not different at all. " I explained to him that Witnesses have a persecution complex. I think the conversation ended shortly thereafter. But you get the idea.
Take care bud. Great thread. Peace out, Mr. Flipper