I saw this in a shop today... I had to get a bottle and log in to JWD whilst drinking a glass !
It was about £ 7.00 a bottle 14 / 15 dollars ?
What do you reckon.... poison ?
I saw this in a shop today... I had to get a bottle and log in to JWD whilst drinking a glass !
It was about £ 7.00 a bottle 14 / 15 dollars ?
What do you reckon.... poison ?
from channel c (today).
you may have read something similar to this before but the specific details are interesting.. this was put on a uk forum by an xjw called gordon...he gave me permission to use his post.. .
quote:.
Can't Simon check his logs and see if there are any known WT IP addresses visiting this site ?
from channel c (today).
you may have read something similar to this before but the specific details are interesting.. this was put on a uk forum by an xjw called gordon...he gave me permission to use his post.. .
quote:.
Of course the WBTS monitor the JWDs, in many different ways. They have readers that scan what is going on from "IP Hidden" or "Dynamic IP" sources. Also about 3 years ago they had some ex CIA types in (called the plumbers)come and installed a ALPHA programme called "Carnivore".
Can I just say from the start that this has absolutely NOTHING to do with me !!!!
Thanks for the info, interesting...
...what did it say about the fds - gb?
how did i not notice the "god's channel" crap?
From the "Truth That Leads To Eternal Life" (1968)
This is the only occurance of "Faithful and Discreet Slave" that I can find :
APPRECIATION OF THE TRUE CHURCH AND ITS FOUNDATION
15
The members of the true church under Christ their head are said to become “Abraham’s seed,heirs with reference to a promise.” (Galatians 3:29) This promise is that all others of obedient
mankind will bless themselves through Christ and his congregation. (Genesis 22:18) The Bible
foretold that, at the time of the establishment of Christ’s kingdom, there would be only a remnant
of these children of the “Jerusalem above,” God’s heavenly organization, left on earth. (Galatians
4:26; Revelation 12:10, 17) Jesus described these members of his church on earth as a “faithful
and discreet slave.” And he said that such ones who were found faithfully serving at the time of
his coming to his judgment work would be appointed “over all his belongings,” that is, over all the
earthly interests of Christ’s kingdom. They would take the lead in the preaching of the good news
of the established Kingdom to all the nations in the “time of the end.”—Matthew 24:14, 45-47;
25:19-23.
16
All those today who hope to gain eternal life in God’s new system need to recognize thisarrangement. For Jesus said that, in this “time of the end,” he separates to a position of favor
those doing good to the remaining ones on earth of his “brothers,” his joint heirs who make up the
Christian congregation. (Matthew 25:31-40) These are the remaining ones of the “living stones”
that are built up into a spiritual house or temple, “a place for God to inhabit by spirit.” (1 Peter 2:5;
Ephesians 2:20-22) Those ‘doing good’ to the members of this temple class are described in the
book of Revelation as a “great crowd” of persons who come under God’s protection. Note, too,
that they gladly serve God “day and night in his temple,” that is, in association with the remnant of
the spiritual temple class, the Christian congregation.—Revelation 7:9, 10, 15.
17
These sheeplike persons say, in effect, to the heirs of the promise made with Abraham: “Wewill go with you people, for we have heard that God is with you people.” (Zechariah 8:23) Even as
those of the true church or congregation faithfully walk in Christ’s footsteps and proclaim the
Kingdom message, so likewise these sheeplike ones ‘go with them,’ serving God right along with
them. Are you doing that? If so, you have the prospect of receiving eternal life on earth, along
with all the other blessings that will flow from Christ and his glorified congregation in the heavens.
[Study Questions]
1. Why is it important to know the identity of the true church and its foundation?
2. (a) Does the Bible ever use the word “church” to refer to a building? (b) What is the meaning
of the Greek word?
3. Why is the true church likened to (a) a human body? (b) an engaged virgin girl?
4. (a) Can anyone “join” the true church by getting his name on some earthly membership roll?
Why? (b) How many make up the true church that will be with Christ in heaven?
5. For what special purpose are members of the true church called?
6. (a) Who were the first members of the true church, and how was witness borne to them that
they were God’s spiritual sons? (b) When was membership opened up for non-Jews?
7. How did Jesus and the apostle Paul identify the foundation cornerstone of the true church?
8. (a) Why could there be no finer foundation for the true church than Christ Jesus? (b) What
question now comes up?
9. (a) How do some persons understand Jesus’ words at Matthew 16:18? (b) Did the majority of
the early church “fathers” understand Jesus’ reference to the “rock” as applying to Peter?
10. How did Augustine understand Jesus’ reference to the “rock”?
11. Whom did Peter himself understand to be the “rock”?
12. (a) How do we know whether Peter was viewed as an “infallible” head of the early church? (b)
Who always remains the head of the true church?
13. (a) What words of Jesus show there was to be no division of the congregation into clergy and
laity? (b) How were the ones taking the lead in the congregation to conduct themselves?
14. Why must the ones making up the true church be gathered in just one organization for
worship?
15. (a) How do Christ and his congregation benefit all other obedient humans? (b) What
responsibility did Jesus say he would give to his true church at the time of his coming in Kingdom
power?
16. What blessings come to those who show proper recognition of this arrangement?
17. What do sheeplike ones say, in effect, to the remaining ones of the true church?
bible topics for discussion--by request--(approx.-14mb) request from researcher: hi atlantis!
i was wondering if you had a copy of that little booklet we used out in the ministry work called 'bible topics'.
it was sort of an a-to-z topic booklet with scriptures listed for that particular subject.
Many thanks Atlantis !
I have the date of this publication as 1977 - is that correct ?
Cheers AO
nothing contributes so much to tranquilize the mind as a steady purpose--.
a point on which the soul may fix its intellectual eye.. mary shelley.
Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and only the pig enjoys it !
have found out from reliable source that the object of our hatred at the mo( and still very deserving of our loathing though he may be) was actually disfellowshiped years ago, am still working on the exact details but will share them as soon as i get them guys.will try and get the date of his disfellowshiping etc n let you know.
soz but he wasdfd yrs ago does that piss on your chips?
Whose chips ? Mine ? Where is it common knowledge... that is all I want to know.
have found out from reliable source that the object of our hatred at the mo( and still very deserving of our loathing though he may be) was actually disfellowshiped years ago, am still working on the exact details but will share them as soon as i get them guys.will try and get the date of his disfellowshiping etc n let you know.
thought it might get your attention, thats why.
I assume that is a response to this question...
Just a thought, but if the guy wasn't a JW when he abused all those children... then why did your post have this heading :
So you have no problem with writing a "headline" that states something that (thanks to your new "facts") you believe to be untrue about this man ?
Doesn't that make you worse than the newspapers ?
have found out from reliable source that the object of our hatred at the mo( and still very deserving of our loathing though he may be) was actually disfellowshiped years ago, am still working on the exact details but will share them as soon as i get them guys.will try and get the date of his disfellowshiping etc n let you know.
he may indeed be a rich man after the court case, i dont know, what bothers me is that jus making a comment on him makes me an accesory.apparantly making a stand for some1 who is already condemend inthe eyes of the world n u r shot down in flames. what i didnt realise is that making a spelling mistake makes you a figure of ridicule within the ranks of ex j,w,s
It doesn't make you an accessory at all. Don't worry about that. All you are doing (and all we are doing) is commenting on current news articles, using the information in them. Is the guy actually worth "making a stand for" ? Whether he was a JW or not at the time.. it still makes him wrong ! It is a relatively easy thing to check on... Infact, I am in the UK, just like you... How about after the Bank Holiday Monday is over, one of us calls the London Bethel and asks ? Will you do it... or shall I ?
have found out from reliable source that the object of our hatred at the mo( and still very deserving of our loathing though he may be) was actually disfellowshiped years ago, am still working on the exact details but will share them as soon as i get them guys.will try and get the date of his disfellowshiping etc n let you know.
Just a thought, but if the guy wasn't a JW when he abused all those children... then why did your post have this heading :
J.W peado from u.k. latest.