a couple days ago i started having these flashbacks of back in the day when i was 17 or so and was a frequent outgoing public speaker.
believe it or not back then i was so naive in the fullest sense of the word, and none of the signs that i encountered then kicked in until years later.. i obviously could go on and on about the impressions and demeanor that i received from the big shots (elders, ms's) from these halls.
a couple that i remember were for ex., one time while visiting a congregation in southwest co i politely waited around to see if any of the elders or a head of a house hold would approach me and invite me for hospitality and tired of waiting around i decided to make that 5 hour solo trip back home.
Where I was they must have been hard up for speakers because I started visiting other congregations
giving the public talks at the age of 16. I been told by many that I seem to talk directly to them, which
I think had to do with my non dependence of my outline. I was also confortable speaking to groups
of people. But I think the main reason They liked my talks was because I always ended about 6 or
7 minutes short. I think that was to far back for any hospitality thing.
years ago i was at the revamp of a kingdom hall.
one of the sisters told me that since they got rid of the kitchen it was so much better, becuase there were always sisters out there crying!
and now they have no place to go, so they just have to stay in the hall and listen to the meeting!.
Everytime I had to go to the meetings I felt like crying. And as the meeting draged on And the boredom
was causing great pain and discomfort I felt like crying.
Yes we had our fair share of criers There was one who cryed everytime she commented. Another
cried when other people commented.
Then of course there are those who cry because they are so happy to be in the spiritual paradise of Gods
Kingdom.
i keep hearing this chatter regarding a new rule regarding the holding of your spouse's hand during a congregation prayer, which, i agree, would be ridiculous.
but where did this rumor start, or was it just some free-lancing elder expressing his own opinion, which escalated to this ripple effect that i see here?.
i haven't seen any less holding of hands at the kh i go to....
First off you can,t go by me, but I,m not a huggy, kissy, handholding type of person with anyone but
my wife. I was always unconfortable
with it. I don,t know why, and don,t care why. There was always some sisters always hugging
everyone when I was kid, and now it just seems to be worse. But I make it very clear that
they ain,t going to do it to me. I nipped that it the bud along time ago. If they did not get
the hint I would just hold my hand up and say hold it right there we are not going to hug.
As far as the prayer part, I consider it private between god and me. I also won,t let the elders pray
when they come to visit, I mean give me a break , they don,t think my prayers can be heard
any more that theirs. I just tell them that I can pray for myself thankyou.
I have some jws actually ask me why I don,t pray at meals. I tell them because I feel that is
a showy display, and what buisness is it of theirs anyway.
But,,, If people want to paw all over each other while praying that is their buisness, and I don,t have
to look. In other words I do my thing and they can do their thing.
i dont know if this has been talked about before but i've seen it recently mentioned so i thought i'd ask and get the good and bad dirt.. first, who was the nut who thought this up?
8 days????
are you kidding me?
I was at the rosebowl. It was the most miserable time of my life. I was probably around 14 or 15 .
I worked the whole time in laundry and getting trays and pots and pans ready for the
dishwasher. Got to see lots of fights. To make the whole thing even more tortuous was
the god awfull loud speaker, which if I had a shotgun at the time I would have blowed the
thing off the post.
There was no miracle that got all those people fed, it was just a lot poor saps like me working their
***** off.
As far as the jws being so polite, that is a crock of crap. I have been to basketball games where the people
were more polite and most of them were drinking.
I am not a real social person so alot of this stuff is probably just me, but I hated the assemblies with
every once of my being. Years ago I made an agreement with my wife, I will stay home and you go. You see
the whole time I was going all I did was complain. My wife now goes with her mom and they don't
have to put up with me. Later on I made the same deal with the meetings etc.
Some jw friends came over the other day . The one 'sister' friend brought up about the talk about the
race to the finish line crap and asked me what I thought about that wonderful information. She shouldn't
have done that. My reply was , you mean the same crap I have heard all my life. I told them what
they allready knew. I quit going to the meetings, assemblies, service and all that. I now feel better
than I have in my life . I have a new found freedom . It is the most liberating thing I have done.
That ended the conversation. But remember folks this is just me, I am not implying that this is true
with everyone.
from a little bird... .
interesting portions highlighted.
notes from annual meeting (oct 3, 2009) .
I do believe the monkeys have taken over the zoo. This generation change thing may break
the record for the sodom and gomorah thing. I thought I was keeping up with the generation crap
but this takes the cake. I defy any jw anywhere to explain this . This is a desparate attempt to
to keep 1914. You would think these sinile fools would just give up , shut up and go away.
the past several kingdom halls i've beein in (in the us) were all decorated the same way.
one wallpaper below the wainscoting.
a clashing wallpaper above the wainscoting.
The kingdom hall I went to had a very pleasing light pastel lavender mix and white trim with pleasing blue grey carpet.
It had a nicely done landscaping layout with very pretty trees. Then came the great remodel. Everything became brown, roof, walls, enside and out, trim and seats. Seats and carpet were brown phychedelic patterns that made it hard
to walk down the isles. The minute I walked in it started to put me to sleep. The landscaping became a monstrosity.
Almost everyone hated it.
the wts was smart enough to not setup a forum on their site.
they knew too much of the truth would come out!.
google has released a simple solution to this little problem: google sidewiki.
They will have no choice but to take down the website.
well, my wife and i returned to the jw elders house for another bible study continuing the series in marriage.
that study went pretty well, poking fun at each other concerning our marital issues and all.
nothing in that particular study would seem to be bad or anything for after all, one cannot argue against the virtues of being faithful to your spouse and the marriage arrangement (at least for christians that is).
jonathan, I like your remark about those scriptures being for the anointed. If the society believes that is true, then why doesnt
all of the new testament only apply to the anointed , for instance the preaching work, etc. If you want to shut a jws mouth
then ask them that question.
the other day some friends and i were talking about shows we liked when we were kids.
one show i absolutely loved when i was a kid, but cannot remember the name, was about some kids who would fly around in a tall wooden rocket ship.
the characters were all marionettes on strings and the ship looked like it was cobbled together will bits and pieces of scrap wood with a cone on the top.. i think it aired in the 1970's or 1980's.
Im giving away my age. Andys gang 1956-1960. With Andy Devine.
when pointing out my objections to the jw religion with my wife, i have noticed a worrying trend which even after 3 or 4 years shows no sign of relenting.. after speaking calmly for an hour or so and logically pointing out my objections, my wife starts to put forward outrageous assertations about my points.
for instance, if i am refering to the fact that disfellowshipping is a form of extreem punishment & i mention the terrible effects that being d/f'd can have on people, she will eventually retort with something like "so what you are saying is that we should tolerate paedophiles, rapists & thieves in the organisation then?".
of course, i've never at any point said anything of the sort.. or if i have been overly critical of the amount of control the society wants over peoples lives, she would reply "so what you are saying is that we should all just go out & do what we want, get drunk & live an immoral life?
I don't even try with my wife anymore. When you show her logic her head starts to spin. The way some of the
jws react, encluding my wife,it sort of makes you feel like they are possessed it is kind of spooky. But the way I
finally shut them down with it being the truth is by showing them that while rutherford was president he wrote
almost all of the books and other literature, and that he did not get it from the holy spirit but got the information
from angels by the mind weld method. I have a lot of his books now and just show them the proof. And now
the society is trying to abandon most of his teachings. Then I make my point of when did it start to become the truth.
Even the new lite crap doesn't work after this because then it just sounds stupid . But even when you shut
them down you still aint changed their mind.
I have now taken the advice 'never argue with a fool because then no one can tell you apart.
