Posts by Deltawave

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Something tells me 1914...
by Monsieur in
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2. beliefs
after todays watchtower lesson, and the lessons coming, something tells me bigger and bigger new understandings are coming.

and that it will culminate with 1914. notice how jesus is now coming, and no longer already here.

the current understanding is both, he is here and hes also coming.
Deltawave

Please can you site where they now talk about Jesus coming instead of present?! I'm intrigued!!
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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?
by Deltawave in
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2. beliefs
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
Deltawave
Wow Viviane, your mind is amazing. Jesus would be heavily influenced by Judaism as he was raised under it. Bhudda was raised in a hindu culture which I fluency his words too. But when you look at what these men said there is a common thread.
1. Love yourself
2. Love your neighbours
3. Cultivate the inner person/ mind and heart.
I don't beleive Jesus desired his followers to claim spirituality by:
- Underlining a study book
- Answering set question correctly to a paragraph
- Doing jobs at a Kingdom hall to show spiritual advancement.
As the Bhudda himself would say, "I have nothing to teach"
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Missing the point?! Is this what Jesus had in mind??
by Deltawave in
1. watchtower
2. bible
is this what jesus had in mind?

to be a spiritual person you must:.

underline your books.
Deltawave
Is this what Jesus had in mind?
To be a spiritual person you must:
1. Underline your books
2. Answer the format questions correctly from t he paragraph
3. Do jobs at the Kingdom Hall to show your spiritual progress
I doubt it somehow.
We do have a spiritual need, a thirst for something beyond the superficial, but all the great spiritual teachers such as Jesus, Muhammad, Bhudda and Ghandi all taught that true spirituality in cultivated from within and not from religious culture.
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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?
by Deltawave in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
Deltawave

Viviane, my comment above is neither to promote myself or the teachings of a religious order. My interests lay in the arms of happiness and fulfilment. When you take away religious dogma and read what the great spiritual leaders actually said they all were United in their views as to the keys to a happy life.
Religion can always be twisted, but the fact that the words and teachings of these men have effected the minds and hearts of billions shows there must be truth in their words.
They all spoke out against organised religions and taught true spirituality is cultivated within and that outward religious piety hindered true spirituality.
The Israelites were a religious nation but not a spiritual one. Hence Jesus rejected them.
JWs promote the idea that a spiritual person is one who underlines their study books, answer the format questions correctly and does jobs in the kingdom Hall...... Need I say more???
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Are you religious or are you spiritual? Wake up to what?
by Deltawave in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
there is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual.

been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of god.

however, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
Deltawave

There is a huge difference between been religious and been spiritual. Been religious is about been superior to others in the sight of God. However, been spiritual is about self awareness, inner peace and unity with the natural world.
Many of us would like to see people wake up from the delusions of the Watchtower cult, but wake up to what?
Wake up to the reality that all the spiritual leaders such as Jesus, Muhammad, Bhudda and Ghandi stood against religion and taught people the power of a spiritual outlook on life.
Love your neighbours as yourselves
Seek gratitude instead of desire
Meditate daily and find inner peace
When we break off the shackles of the cultists paradigm we see true spirituality isn't in a highlighted Watchtower for all to see, but in the way we conduct ourselves as humans. Lets throw off the chains, cast off the doubts and show JW What true inner peace and true self esteem look like.
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Types, anti-types, starting fresh?
by Crazyguy in
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2. beliefs
do you think these changes are being made so they can start teaching the r&f a new set of doctrines?

or is this just a fly in the ointment just to continue to confuses the masses so they don't know what the hell to think anymore?.

and if you think its so they can teach new doctrines, do you think their going to go more main stream?.
Deltawave

@DATA DOG I your pain bro. I fell e exactly the same. I got so depressed with it I tried to commit suicide myself a few years ago. Its a hard bump to earth when you realise you've been led to all your life without anywhere else to turn. But at least as a group they lead moral lives free from alot of the hardships of people not going to kingdom hall.
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G Losch: child baptised at 5, reg pioneer since!
by fifth.column in
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2. beliefs
at the end of april, there was a zone visit in france, with tv broadcast in all kh.. g. losch told he received a letter from a girl, 10 years old, baptised at 5, reg pioneer since 4 years !

what a fine example, he said....... let s imagine the faces of the parents in the kh!

i was happy to see i was not the only one to find it crazy.. if you have a child, you know how mature he is at 5. how can a child preach 2.5hours/day after 7hours of school and homework to do??
Deltawave

I was allowed to get baptised at 11. Thats young enough but 5??!!
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Abuse of Power - Today's WT Study, May 10, 2015 (w2015 3/15)
by Oubliette in
1. watchtower
2. bible
ok, so i only read the wt study articles to keep up with the indoctrination that my two "still-in" children are being subjected to.

when i read this in today's wt i nearly blew a gasket: .

[naboth] held to jehovahs law in the face of horrific abuse of power.
Deltawave

Too flipping right!!!!!!
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Types, anti-types, starting fresh?
by Crazyguy in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
do you think these changes are being made so they can start teaching the r&f a new set of doctrines?

or is this just a fly in the ointment just to continue to confuses the masses so they don't know what the hell to think anymore?.

and if you think its so they can teach new doctrines, do you think their going to go more main stream?.
Deltawave

They already don't like to quote anything more than 15 years old.... I agree this time frame is gonna suddenly shrink into the last 5 years or less!
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Types and anti types
by Deltawave in
1. watchtower
2. bible
according the watchtower study of may 10th, it has been made clear no prophetic meaning should be given to a a scripture or passage unless the bible itself gives clear interpretation of it.

therefore daniel 7 especially gives it's fulfillment to nebuchadnezzar only.

no future kingdom or 2520year wait til 1914. no gentile times or "this generation".
Deltawave

The whole of the 1914 paradigm is a type / anti type scenario. From Nebuchadnezzar been cut down like the symbolic tree, the days for years intervention and the restoration of Jerusalem. Without the type /antitypes the whole 1914 last days prophecy falls apart without a single scripture to back it up.
Besides, even Jesus parables have been de-bunked as only stories to high light a specific principle so they can't even tie in Matthew 24 as having a grand fulfilment with the commencement of WWI. So the whole thing is a flop.