I live in Montana. We had to travel a little over three hours. Our convention was in Billings, which is in the South Eastern part of the state, but I think at one time people that lived in Missoula Montana were assigned to the Billings distrist...that's probably an 8 hour drive...I felt so bad for them. Montana is huge and it takes an act of God to get from one side to the other...
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6with the summer DC's coming up, how far do/did you have to travel?
by ?me? injust wondering, i was trying to figure out where the conventions were in the upper northwest of the usa and how far the montana, idaho, dakota witnesses have to travel?
it was fun to get away for a weekend when i was a teen, but now as an adult, i would rather go have fun in a cool city.
for me: first couple of years, drive 2:15 hours to the convention city-------------------------- next 5 years.
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Notes: Saturday District Convention - Do Not Follow...
by NestleBoy inthere was also a district convention in south florida this past weekend.
at the christian convention center in w. palm beach.
i had the pleasure of having to go all three days -- yes it was boring.
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Thanks Juni!
I've enjoyed this board immensely!
Yes, Montana is a beautiful state! but we've got some ugly messed up congs. spotting the landscape and blocking the view
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Notes: Saturday District Convention - Do Not Follow...
by NestleBoy inthere was also a district convention in south florida this past weekend.
at the christian convention center in w. palm beach.
i had the pleasure of having to go all three days -- yes it was boring.
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I'm so glad I never have to sit through one of those again. I went to Billings, MT this week where they have the three day assembly at every year. I'm moving there at the end of next month and we decided memorial day weekend would be good time to get all my stuff down there. Thank god I decided to move this week because if I would have gone down next week that's when the convention is...and I would of seen every brother, sister, and elder I know roaming around town at the end of the day...YIKES!
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Anyone from the Hamilton Montana congregation???
by What-A-Coincidence ini met a friend of my brothers who use to attend there and has family still locked in.
this guy left at 15 ... he rolled out like this ... he was accused for fornication during a sunday talk ... so he gets up and says ... well this elder is f ing that elders wife and that elder is f ing someone else ... pointing them out as he was saying this and never returned.
talk about balls.
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I'm not from Hamilton, but I live in Montana. I'd rather not say which cong I attended but I've heard so many stories like that...maybe not things that extreme but it seems we have a problem with adultery here...
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Witnesses on federal and state assistance programs
by AZ inhas anyone ever noticed the amount of witnesses that receive assistance through state and federal programs, like welfare, food stamps, medicaid, wic...i'm sure it varied from area to area but does anyone feel they noticed people within the congregation were using it too much.... i was just thinking about it.
i guess cause the other day i had an appt with my financial advisor (i'm so glad i'm saving for my retirement!!
) and there's a restaraunt below the offices...my advisor was telling me that when they get there in the morning the cleaning man at the restaraunt always has his music turned up all the way...she said people at the office were complaining.
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Has anyone ever noticed the amount of Witnesses that receive assistance through state and federal programs, like welfare, food stamps, medicaid, WIC...I'm sure it varied from area to area but does anyone feel they noticed people within the congregation were using it too much...
I was just thinking about it. I guess cause the other day I had an appt with my financial advisor (I'm so glad I'm saving for my retirement!!) and there's a restaraunt below the offices...My advisor was telling me that when they get there in the morning the cleaning man at the restaraunt always has his music turned up all the way...She said people at the office were complaining. I know who the cleaning man was...a brother in my former congregation. There are so many brothers and sisters in our congregation that had cleaning jobs like that. I don't know how they made ends meet. You got to do what you got to do to pay your bills but there were a few that I know of on welfare and they abused the system terribly. I know a sister who lied about her husbands income so she could get the state to pay for her gastric bypass. It always ircked me that the WT encouraged everyone to not get a real education. I felt they made out like you could still get a good job based on the skills you learned being a witness. But it's BS and they basically force a lot of brothers and sisters to rely on the government to support themselves. -
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This is how messed up it was...
by themonster123 ini've just been thinking about jwd and how messed it up it is how the witnesses twisted things in my mind so i totally got mind-warped....what am i talking about, you ask?
well, whenever someone has a quote on here from watchtower literature from years past (like from the 1970s or 1960s etc) proving that witnesses have taught/do teach this or that in the past, i automatically discredit that quote necause how i was taught as a witness was that whole new light thing-meaning...... "oh, well, things have changed-our teachings have changed, we no longer believe or teach this, this, and that anymore,"- i'm so brainwashed that when i read old quotes on here where people prove to say that witnesses taught this or that, it's like i kind of go "oh well that quote doesnt' matter," but in reality.......... jws should take responsibility for everything they've taught!!!
and not just keep saying, "well, that was then-this is now.. ...i mean, from an outsider's view point, they would say "oh, so witnesses teach this?
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I've also wondered about that new light thing too but I guess it was just very convenient for them because that's all they had to say was it's "new light" and a new understanding. They couldn't possibly lie about something. The new light line was just a cover up but everyone excepts it because, oh ya, that's right, it's the "true religion".
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hello.....
by L.Wells ini have lurked here for quite some time but felt the need to register, probably because i feel almost ready to leave.
a little background.
i am raised in the truth, am for all intents and purposes a good witness.
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My advice would be to get out now...I have a story similiar to yours. I just stopped going and so did my parents several years ago. It wasn't until the last several months that I've gone looking for information. There is a lot of dirt out there. When you're a JW you believe everything so blindly. I never thought I would come to realize that it isn't the truth and if you're smart enough to have figured it out than you should just leave. There are so many people still stuck there because they still believe. There is an ex JW that wrote a story on another website. You should read it...it's long but it really helped me.
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I always had to chuckle at this
by TooBad TooSad inat circuit and especially district assemblies so many witnesses take.
notes of what was being said at such a feverish pace that i would ask.
myself: "what are they hearing that i am not hearing that is so important.
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Yes it was a waste of time, but then so was going to meetings and the assemblies in the first place. I found that taking notes keep me occuppied. I know they always told everyone that if they took notes they could review them later and recieve even more "scriptual food from Jehovah's heavenly table" BLAH BLAH BLAH
I only took notes at the assemblies and of course the speaker talks faster than anyone can write...so I didn't get much down.
I loved to see a show of hands on how many people ever looked at those notes again...Just the WTBTS way of sucking more time out of our lives. I remember one meeting when the CO was there and they gave everyone a graph of how much of our week was actually spent in service to god as if too prove that they didn't ask for that much of our time.
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TV Shows...which ones didn't you get to watch?
by TheCoolerKing inwhat tv shows didn't you get to watch when you were a jw?
either because you had to attend one of the five meetings a week or had to go out in field service on the weekend?.
i remember being pissed off as a kid every saturday morning, because we always had to go out in field service.
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Thank god my family was never that active so I hardly ever went out in service...so I never missed Saturday morning catoons but I remember not being able to watch the smurfs, which didn't really upset me that much but looking back on it now I remember the whole JW movement about smurfs being bad. It's kind a funny cause they were dead serious that they were from satan...I also remember wanting to see "Willow" at the movies. It had wizards and stuff like that in it. I told my mom one day when we were driving in the car and there was another sister with us. The sister told me that the movie was bad etc. etc.,...I was really pissed...
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Where does the WT Society get all of its money?
by Threestars ini was always taught that they were so frugal and even poor, just scraping by with neccessities back in brooklyn and at the farm, and in our congs they always harped at everyone to put more in the box since they couldn't make the hall payment or the utilities, etc.. now i am hearing that they are quite well off.
is this mostly from wealthy dubs leaving money to the borg in their wills, or, rich ones donating, (for instance prince or the williams sisters)?.
just curious..
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I think I always heard that they mostly made it on donations...but why am I not surprised to learn that we have ownership in companies that make machines for the U.S. military...it's scary that you can find that kind of information out but I guess all you have to do is look.