I have heard pioneers and Elders make comments that the Australian Govt . is stupid , so take what they offer and use it to serve kingdom interests.
smiddy
my wife who is currently on maternity leave made a comment about luck she was to leave in canada because we get 52 weeks maternity at basically 40,000 per year.
she is not originally from canada coming from a country with basically no maternity leave.
i told her to make sure she doesn't say anything like that at kh.
I have heard pioneers and Elders make comments that the Australian Govt . is stupid , so take what they offer and use it to serve kingdom interests.
smiddy
"and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.
for the old world and its evils are gone forever.
" rev.
God apparently spoke to and visited people in the 1st Century according to the Bible.regarding his puposes and to give instructions for his and Jesus followers .As he has done 4000 years previously with different prophets and faithful men of old , and also some women.
2000 years ago people never had the Scientific knowledge or education we have today , yet for 4000 years previously God had numerous occasions where he communicated with humans and apparently he had no issues back then in doing so , why he even had conversations with Satan the Devil in heaven on occasion as did Jesus Christ .Satan wasn`t shunned at any time,
2000 years ago to the present day we havent seen or heard from our Lord God Jehovah or his glorious son Christ Jesus at all , What is the difference between the first 4000 years and the latter 2000 years , one where he was involved in their affairs to the latter where he is totally silent .not saying yay or nay about anything.
If a human being witnesses a crime or an injustice against anybody/somebody and does nothing about it , how or what do we think about that person .?
If God the Almighty /Jehovah , see`s crimes and injustices against his creation , humans and he does nothing about it , in over Centuries of time , how should we feel about him .?
smiddy
just in case someone wanted this letter for their records.
.. http://postimg.org/image/dn44a9m9h/.
.. petra!.
How about the Bro. or Sis. who orchestrates an affair so one can get out of a marriage and marry another in the "Truth" after DF, and then get re-instated after a year or so .I can just see the congregation idiots clapping now .
smiddy
for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .
christ left a ministry , or meeting .
children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).
Holy Toledo , I never would have thought there could have been so many insightful answers to such a question .
I thank everybody who contributed , Wasanelder .Divergent ,,prologos , punkofnice ,Barely There , The Searcher ,Konceptual99 , freemindfade , stan Livedeath ,eyeusetobeadub , jookbeard , FindTheLost .talesin .
Surely there cant be many more ,but if so keep them coming .
smiddy
i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
So they were registered in Cuba as a Cultural Organization and not a religion , the same as was the case in Mexico ? That is interesting .Theocratic warfare practiced way back then , using deception , no we are not a religion , we are a cultural organization.
Is that an outright lie to the Governments in question or was it a subterfuge hiding the truth from those who don`t deserve it .namely the Governments in question.
We did see a similar deception against the Bulgarian Government didn`t we , regarding Disfellow - shipping for taking Blood , the WT/Jehovah`s Witnesses said , no we don`t Disfellowship anyone any more .What they did not tell the Bulgarians is they now consider ones who take blood as disassociating themselves from the religion of Jehovah`s Witnesses , and they are treated exactly the same as ones who have been disfellow-shipped .
And the Bulgarians apparently bought it , giving them legal recognition in their Country .
Is that deception honest ? even ethical ?
smiddy
so said my pops one morning.
we were visiting my sister in eastern tennessee and the night before after everyone else went to bed pops was watching tv when all of a sudden and completely on it's own the tv changed to the tonight show, holy smokes!!
must be demons cause pops didn't change it!
I have heard a number of stories of lone sisters being molested in their beds by Demons ......or was that just wishful thinking on there part .
smiddy
have you heard that old chestnut?
i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.
they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..
"Even if it isn`t the truth its still the best way to live" ....what a cop out .
Could not almost any religion say that and also it be true ?
How pathetic an apology of falsehoods .
smiddy
just a few questions from a newbie.
answer one or as many as you want.
1. why cleaners?
OutsiderLookingin,
If every JW took seriously the negative aspects of higher education literally , the majority of witnesses would now be living on handouts / welfare from the Governments who they reject as being misled by Satan the Devil .
Come to think of it most of them are .
Jehovah`s Witnesses do not participate in Government ,however they will take what Govts. offer them .
1/ They do not participate in Charitable Organizations , however they will accept what is offered to them .
Only giving to their own members does not qualify them .
Doing menial jobs because of their lack of education , they have little or no dental or Health care , so they rely on the Government to provide these basic needs .
They have no money or savings because of the low income they have received over all these years of pioneering and having menial jobs , so , who do they rely on ? The Government to provide for them .
The only people in the main who do have above average qualifications / education are those who obtained them before converting to Jehovah` s Witnesses in the first place.
2/ The majority of JW`s go back because they are victims of emotional blackmail ,unless you come back you can not see your son , daughter , or mother , or father, or grandchildren.
3 / study and analyze 1 , and 2 of this post , and come to your own conclusion , and if you think this religion of Jehovah`s Witnesses is something to be joined because of a romantic interest in the opposite sex , think again.
smiddy
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/01/26/doomsday-clock-countdown-humanitys-end-moves-today/79347584/.
doomsday clock: 'three minutes' left until the apocalypse .
the doomsday clock, a symbolic countdown to the world’s end, stands still at three minutes until midnight, scientists announced tuesday.. it remains at the position it moved to one year ago.. that the clock moves no closer to midnight, the indicated end of humanity, remains "grave" news, its makers stressed.. "unless we change the way we think, humanity remains in serious danger," said lawrence krauss of the bulletin of the atomic scientists, the nonprofit that sets the clock.
Jehovah`s Witnesses would have had the Doomsday clock 3 minutes past Midnight on numerous occasions in their history with their revolving corner prophecy .
Just curious , where was the minute hand after 911 ?
smiddy
just in case someone wanted this letter for their records.
.. http://postimg.org/image/dn44a9m9h/.
.. petra!.
Next thing you know they will be clapping when someone dies for refusing a blood transfusion.
smiddy