all churches are cults, it's just a matter of degree.. always submit to the church administrationfor they were placed by lord god to lead his nationif we obey then we will receive salvationsing along with me.... ....
Isn`t that the church that originated in the Phillipines , that is very similar in many ways to JW`s with a far greater membership worldwide I might add . and not to be confused with the Church of Christ that originated in America.?
Iglesio ni Cristo , look it up on Google
smiddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqaeusdmtk.
http://jdc.jefferson.edu/jmbcimfp/5/.
abstract.
Believing in God does not make you dumb , as can be shown by history .Many scientific , medical ,industrial , innovative , achievements have been made over the Centuries by men and women who have had belief in the Bible.
Believing in charlatans , self delusional people who claim to be God`s only spokesperson for God ,false prophets ,cults , etc.
,Believing in these types , can certainly lead you down the path , whereby you become dumb by suspending reason and critical thinking and blindly accepting what they say as "truth"
That`s dumb
smiddy
it occurred to me today, that so often, my mother will make the comment that .
"those false religions teach that everyone is going to heaven when they die, oh sure, .
all you have to do is be a good person, and off you go to heaven.
Giordano
Isn`t there a joke about that somewhere ? It goes like this.
Peter is showing new arrivals around heaven , and different faiths have different doors to them with a welcoming sign on them.
All except Jehovah`s Witnesses , that says , Do not enter.
The new arrivals ask why that sign is on the J.W.door
Peter answers , because they think there the only ones up here
smiddy
my wife who is currently on maternity leave made a comment about luck she was to leave in canada because we get 52 weeks maternity at basically 40,000 per year.
she is not originally from canada coming from a country with basically no maternity leave.
i told her to make sure she doesn't say anything like that at kh.
I have heard pioneers and Elders make comments that the Australian Govt . is stupid , so take what they offer and use it to serve kingdom interests.
smiddy
"and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.
for the old world and its evils are gone forever.
" rev.
God apparently spoke to and visited people in the 1st Century according to the Bible.regarding his puposes and to give instructions for his and Jesus followers .As he has done 4000 years previously with different prophets and faithful men of old , and also some women.
2000 years ago people never had the Scientific knowledge or education we have today , yet for 4000 years previously God had numerous occasions where he communicated with humans and apparently he had no issues back then in doing so , why he even had conversations with Satan the Devil in heaven on occasion as did Jesus Christ .Satan wasn`t shunned at any time,
2000 years ago to the present day we havent seen or heard from our Lord God Jehovah or his glorious son Christ Jesus at all , What is the difference between the first 4000 years and the latter 2000 years , one where he was involved in their affairs to the latter where he is totally silent .not saying yay or nay about anything.
If a human being witnesses a crime or an injustice against anybody/somebody and does nothing about it , how or what do we think about that person .?
If God the Almighty /Jehovah , see`s crimes and injustices against his creation , humans and he does nothing about it , in over Centuries of time , how should we feel about him .?
smiddy
just in case someone wanted this letter for their records.
.. http://postimg.org/image/dn44a9m9h/.
.. petra!.
How about the Bro. or Sis. who orchestrates an affair so one can get out of a marriage and marry another in the "Truth" after DF, and then get re-instated after a year or so .I can just see the congregation idiots clapping now .
smiddy
for a while there i was confused as to what clam stood for .. ideas that crossed my mind .
christ left a ministry , or meeting .
children`s lives are mine .....( pedo`s in the borg ).
Holy Toledo , I never would have thought there could have been so many insightful answers to such a question .
I thank everybody who contributed , Wasanelder .Divergent ,,prologos , punkofnice ,Barely There , The Searcher ,Konceptual99 , freemindfade , stan Livedeath ,eyeusetobeadub , jookbeard , FindTheLost .talesin .
Surely there cant be many more ,but if so keep them coming .
smiddy
i am going to engage on a trip to the past and share with you some of the matters that marked the beginning of the jws persecution in cuba.
you will be surprised that the pattern that was followed is very similar to what happened in other dictatorial countries.. in the cuban case, i am going to surprise you and tell you that like what happened with hitler; the wt was partially responsible for their clash and confrontation with the cuban government.
during the early 60s the revolution was fighting for survival and they were willing and ready to demolish any perceived enemy to their cause.. a prime example was their war against the catholic church that was the most influential religious entity in the country; it took the supreme leader only a few public discourses to send the vast majority of clergy packing and back to their country, in this case spain.. the jehovah’s witnesses were an insignificant minority but they over estimated their importance and displayed a belligerent attitude, it was known that this was a us based religion and an easy target to connect them with the cia.
So they were registered in Cuba as a Cultural Organization and not a religion , the same as was the case in Mexico ? That is interesting .Theocratic warfare practiced way back then , using deception , no we are not a religion , we are a cultural organization.
Is that an outright lie to the Governments in question or was it a subterfuge hiding the truth from those who don`t deserve it .namely the Governments in question.
We did see a similar deception against the Bulgarian Government didn`t we , regarding Disfellow - shipping for taking Blood , the WT/Jehovah`s Witnesses said , no we don`t Disfellowship anyone any more .What they did not tell the Bulgarians is they now consider ones who take blood as disassociating themselves from the religion of Jehovah`s Witnesses , and they are treated exactly the same as ones who have been disfellow-shipped .
And the Bulgarians apparently bought it , giving them legal recognition in their Country .
Is that deception honest ? even ethical ?
smiddy
so said my pops one morning.
we were visiting my sister in eastern tennessee and the night before after everyone else went to bed pops was watching tv when all of a sudden and completely on it's own the tv changed to the tonight show, holy smokes!!
must be demons cause pops didn't change it!
I have heard a number of stories of lone sisters being molested in their beds by Demons ......or was that just wishful thinking on there part .
smiddy
have you heard that old chestnut?
i have.. typically it's the last resort when you have dismantled a jws beliefs and they have no way of defending them.
they know they are beat so they come out with that one.. its effectively an admission that you are right and they have no argument but they are still going to attend meetings because they like the social club.. what a lame way to defend your faith..
"Even if it isn`t the truth its still the best way to live" ....what a cop out .
Could not almost any religion say that and also it be true ?
How pathetic an apology of falsehoods .
smiddy
