You gotta be kidding me , seriously ? Is this some kind of sick joke ?
I`m with you sparrowdown , I`m utterly gobsmacked if this is true .
smiddy
this is in response to the thread about the supposed suicide of a bethelite in 1995.. when i went to bethel i and everyone else, signed a form stating that "if we died while at bethel the wathtower bible and tract society,had the right to keep our body.".
yes, we thought it strange at the time but as a twenty years old you didn't think much about stuff like that.
besides we were never going to die anyway.
You gotta be kidding me , seriously ? Is this some kind of sick joke ?
I`m with you sparrowdown , I`m utterly gobsmacked if this is true .
smiddy
https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-fight-law-requiring-child-sex-abuse-be-reported-to-police/.
jehovah’s witnesses fight law on reporting child sex abuse to police.
trey bundy, february 1, 2016 .
I thought the official position with the Governing Body of Jehovah`s Witnesses , was that they did not have a Clergy laity class. Full stop.
I`m going back about 50 years now .
And I agree fully with Scully regarding the Sacramental Confession does not apply to Jehovah`s Witnesses as her/his post points out .
The confessor is one person , the priest is one other person , and no other human hears this confession.
With JW`S a confession may be made to one Elder , however it will then be brought to another Elders attention and then a Judicial Committee is formed involving another three Elders to investigate further what has been disclosed .
smiddy
would the jehovah`s witnesses be a shoe in , for the most about face , flip flop , of doctrine , beliefs , and practices in this 21st century , to have previously strongly held beliefs and then for them to be discarded in their 140 ?
year history ?.
i think they take the cake .. smiddy.
Would the Jehovah`s Witnesses be a shoe in , for the most about face , flip flop , of doctrine , beliefs , and practices in this 21st Century , to have previously strongly held beliefs and then for them to be discarded in their 140 ? or so . year history ?
I think they take the cake .
smiddy
i have been lurking on the site for a few months and thought it about time i plucked up the courage to step out of the shadows and say hello.. i am in the process of fading after realizing all is not right with the organization i had trusted implicitly for over 40 years.
there have always been 'truths' i have struggled to accept entirely, even as a child, but was confident that trusting in jehovah, building my faith and remaining patient would be enough to settle any nagging doubts that remained, so i pushed any inconsistencies to the back of my mind and concentrated on being the best witness that i could be.. over the last few years, however, i have been preoccupied with a number of crises in my family and stepping back slightly from 'theocratic' activity has allowed me to re evaluate a number of concerns and research sources other than the sanitized wt publications.. my eyes are now wide open - i found things which have appalled me and left me feeling extremely let down and disappointed by people i had really trusted.. i tried gently raising a few subjects with my mum (who was baptized early '70s and still remains a staunch wt supporter) but she will hear no criticism of the organization.
i understand this because the best part of her life has been invested in the religion and to acknowledge it may have got things wrong would be to recognize the last 40 years have been a vain waste.
Welcome Contramundum
I can understand you no rocking the boat with your mum at this stage , no point.
Welcome to the board by the way and take your time in your fade .
Don`t be too trusting with your " friends in the truth" it may surprise you how many want to gain browny points by outing some brother or sister to the body of elders , just be aware,
take care
smiddy
my son is nearing completion of his 3-1/2 year chemo journey.
i have an appointment with his primary oncologist at the end of next month as an end of treatment exit meeting.
she and her team are leads at this particular hospital.
First off , I hope your son is responding positively to his treatment and that you and your wife are coping with the situation.
My 2 cents worth with your proposal would be to align yourself with people who have expertise in this field, such as Kerry Louderback-Wood ,who wrote an Article :"Jehovah`s Witnesses Blood Transfusions and The Tort Of Misrepresentation " in Medical Journals and has been active in giving presentations.
Also the work done by Bill Bowen `s site that highlights the inconsistency`s of the JW blood policy doctrine , rather than trying to start something on your own , add your support to some who have a bit of clout in what they do , and together you may accomplish more.
I wish you luck in whatever decision you make.
smiddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsbfnzrbiqq
Not available to me either .in Australia.
smiddy
all churches are cults, it's just a matter of degree.. always submit to the church administrationfor they were placed by lord god to lead his nationif we obey then we will receive salvationsing along with me.... ....
And we think we alone have a problem , ? scary isn`t it ?
sniddy
so said my pops one morning.
we were visiting my sister in eastern tennessee and the night before after everyone else went to bed pops was watching tv when all of a sudden and completely on it's own the tv changed to the tonight show, holy smokes!!
must be demons cause pops didn't change it!
Sleep paralysis , seems to be an evident explanation for me , I had these experiences , pre -teen and into my early teen years , and nothing after that .
Pre-teen was the most frightening , but why did I not say anything to my parents ? about these episodes ?
Was I afraid of being labelled a nut case ? Insane ? maybe both,
Funny I have never told anybody about these experiences before
How common is this ?
smiddy
just want to take a moment and mention how exceptional the moderator is here @simon.
been on many many forums and you'll be pressed to find a more fair person.
he creates a safe environment where the chicanery is a minimum.
Is their a rotten apple in their ? lower left hand corner ? Who could that be .?
Don`t be bashful Simon , you AND the MODS do a great job with this site .
Kudos to you all .
smiddy
hey ya'll!
i have been lurking for years on this site and others but never had the courage to post anything.
actually i was afraid of posting on an apostate site in the event i was wrong.
Stepford wife ,
"If they even dare mention anything about DF ,or anything ,I will sue their asses off and bring it to the Supreme Court if necessary ...."
I have had a similar experience where elders tried to intimidate me with a situation .In my case it was 'leave it in Jehovah`s hands " "trust the organization to do the right thing " and so forth .trying to shut me down.
My response ? I want the names of you elders , and I will make a complaint to the Branch Office about you.
( I`m in Australia )
I will also make a formal complaint about you to the Governing Body in America stating the circumstances , naming you as individuals in this case .
The result : Pardon the expression they shit themselves , Above all else they do not want there name with a black mark on it with the G.B. , they will bend over backwards to avoid that
The result I got was better than even I expected .
So trust me use this tactic , as well as making it public in the media to them ( even if you don`t want to they don`t have to know ) threaten them with it , if there names are going to be published , either in the media or within the Branch Office or the G.B. they have a panic attack , and will back down .
smiddy