I think Christianity is the Anti-Christ , with 40,000 + christian sects all at odds with each other .
smiddy
I think Christianity is the Anti-Christ , with 40,000 + christian sects all at odds with each other .
smiddy
Did Donald Trump score some winning points with his Foreign Policy speech ?
He is going to put American interests first ? If the allies of the USA don`t pay their own way then they can take the highway ? ( my words not his )
Instead of propping up foreign powers , allies , with massive handouts in aid and Defence,he would put American interests first and foremost to make America great again , and those Country`s that didn`t pay their own way, they could look after themselves.
That was the gist of his speech as I read it.
Does he have a point ?
Oops getting back to the OP , No , Donald Trump is not the Anti-Christ , see the following post.
smiddy
i bumped in this story this afternoon.
it's about a family of jw's.
it's an unbelievable story of murder that took place in 2014.. so much for spiritual paradise.. https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=dateline+tangled.
wannaexit
Google " Crimes committed by Jehovah`s Witnesses" , you will find that every conceivable crime has been committed by Jehovah`s witnesses in good standing , from petty crimes to murder and everything in between .
I once made this comment to an Elder and his reply was that if they did these crimes they were not really Jehovah`s Witnesses .
I replied , by that reasoning their are no Catholics in jails anywhere either.
.....All I got was a blank stare
smiddy
every religious group know the story of adam & eve.
for me, i understood what they did was wrong but i never felt they were bad people and considering that they never murdered anyone and seemed to live normal lives after being kicked out, i found it hard to accept that they deserved to die forever and that we would be responsible for suffering for their mistakes.
i personally feel like i might have done the same thing adam did when eve offered him the fruit.
If I was Adam I would have gone straight to the tree of life and ate from that , stuff the tree of knowledge of good and bad , that would have become evident living forever. What a dickhead Adam was , I thought he was perfect.
smiddy
the knowledge of religious tales are similar to knowing the story of the "little red riding hood.
" there is the big, "bad" wolf who needs to be conquered, destroyed, avoided.
the story may change as religions change.
Their are over 40,000 religions professing Christianity , each with their own interpretation of what the Bible means or what it is actually saying .
And for the past 2000 years Jehovah ,Jesus , has remained silent., in spite of what these 40,000+ Religions claim.
And these figures don`t include individuals who claim to have insight as to what the scriptures mean .
smiddy
when you think about it , in this 21st century of enlightenment , the explosion of information technology in all fields imaginable , yet the majority of humans of all faiths live their lives according to ancient scriptures / writings etc.for a world long past its use by date.. the bible says" faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for " none of the expectations hoped for in the jehovah`s witness religion ever eventuated , and neither has it in any other faith .. faith , of no matter what belief , is the carrot on the end of a stick leading the gullible on , and on , and on .and on.. smiddy.
When you think about it , in this 21st Century of enlightenment , the explosion of information technology in all fields imaginable , yet the majority of humans of all faiths live their lives according to ancient scriptures / writings etc.for a world long past its use by date.
The Bible says" faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for " None of the expectations hoped for in the Jehovah`s Witness religion ever eventuated , and neither has it in any other faith .
Faith , of no matter what belief , is the carrot on the end of a stick leading the gullible on , and on , and on .and on.
smiddy
i ran into my old bible study at the kingdom hall recently, he was baptized as a jw 8 years ago.
we started talking about small things and catching up about our families and then the bombshell.. "my wife and i are deeply troubled by the watchtower change of doctrine, prophecy, and their history"!
"did you know about charles russell and his failed marriage... his view of pyramids... generation mistakes... and dates... that place in california for returning prophets..."and on and on he went.. i told him i knew all about it and then show him a publication on display in the foyer (i think it is divine plan of the ages), and it had a fold out of a pyramid and a description on bible verses that showed 1914 was the year the big a was going to happen.
I agree WingCommander , something just doesn`t ring true.
How about some explanations James Jack to clarify some of your comments,? So as their is no misunderstanding ?
smiddy
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20131115/seven-shepherds-eight-dukes/.
from paragraph 17-. at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.
all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.. i think i know what the instructions will be.it's nothing new.
That quote from that magazine should have been a wake up call to every Jehovah`s Witness regardless of their intellect .
It should have been a red flag waving frantically at all members ,
"Get out of her my people if you don`t want to share in her sins "
Any lurkers here should look up the typical signs of what constitutes a cult , you may be surprised at how many fit the Jehovah`s Witness Religion .
Just saying
smiddy
They are becoming more mainstream everyday , whats next ,
your conscience decision on the cross or a stake ?
To take a blood transfusion or not ?
How about tithing ?
Island Man , has summed it up nicely .
Just to add : Approving / Endorsing of Celebrities such as Prince ? Music Idols , Sports Idols , the Williams sisters , never mind they may not be baptized they have invoked Jehovah and their Witness faith , and the Society has kept it`s mouth shut.
I believe Alec Rance is treated like a celebrity here in Melbourne Aust. being a J.W.in good standing and a professional footballer for the Richmond Tigers in the AFL code.You don`t reach this level unless you spend years in dedication and training to get their. And as his contract comes up for review , he plays the card of possibly leaving the code to pursue his faith ........yeah right...... you guessed it he signed a lucrative contract to remain a footballer
What happened to the Scriptual injunction not to be competitive ? Our children were discouraged from playing team sports , or any other sport for that matter ,during the 60`s to 90`s .
smiddy
i am a male, born into the jw cult(ure), baptized as a teen, now mid fifties.
most of my life i dreamed of hugging pandas and lions, punctuated at times by nightmares of armageddon or jw drama and politics.
still going through the motions for still-in wife.
Dreamerdude
G`day mate and welcome to the TTATT. Obviously you have been lurking for a long time and i`m glad you have taken the step to post.
Posters from all over the world here do offer words of wisdom sadly lacking at J.W. H.Q.`s
I wish you well as far as your wife is concerned in waking up , we all have different experiences as to what woke us up.
Their is always hope.
Take care
smiddy