Welcome lostsoul123 , from down under and a high five from me.
smiddy
Welcome lostsoul123 , from down under and a high five from me.
smiddy
hello everyone, it's been quite a while since i was last on this forum.
originally i was under a different user name, but lost all that information when i moved to a different state.
anyways, i had left the jws back in 2001, after being raised up in it most of my childhood life.
Attend the family reunion, stay the full time and let the JW`s make as big a scene as they like and show themselves up for what stupid people they can be.
smiddy
hello jwn,.
to introduce myself, i am still in the jws but learned ttatt some months ago.
i now ask this question to get more info on a past teaching.. between 1967 and 1980 was when the 'current understanding' of the wts was that organ transplants were cannibalism, and thus abhorrent.
Hi Crossroads , welcome to the board ,
If i remember correctly it was in the" Kingdom Ministry" that stated organ transplants were likened to cannibalism and seeing the donated organ was still functioning it would have the donors blood within it .
So , by their reckoning on two counts you would be DF .( eating blood and eating flesh) WT view not mine .
At the time I thought it was big stretch of the imagination to call it cannibalism , however I was still a firm believer back then and went along with it.
smiddy
http://www.presstelegram.com/article/lb/20160630/news/160639983.
note: southwestern longview was a private school that catered to witness children.
buena park – a south carolina man who worked as a teacher at a private school in long beach a decade ago has been arrested by buena park police officers on suspicion of the “continuous sexual abuse of a child” who was a student of his, authorities said today.. jason gorski of fort mill, 43, was arrested on june 21, said buena park police sgt.
When are the Elders who dont report these crimes , going to be charged with being complicit in a crime by not reporting it to the relevant authorities , whether it be the police or child protection services.
Elders seem to be getting away with this in one country after another , they are culpable and need to be brought to justice for not reporting these crimes against children.
What can we do to put pressure on Governments where we live to make Elders more accountable when they fail to report child sexual abuse within their congregations,
They seem to be escaping this punishment not only in Australia ,the UK , Europe , and the USA ,to name a few
and no doubt elsewhere ..
This is not good enough , we need to do something about it
Any suggestions ?
smiddy
http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/article_8dec9e79-b243-5265-80ee-fee138922f80.html.
at this rate, soon they'll let infants get dipped:.
lindsey jackson, 14, of king george county was among the 33 people who were baptized saturday during the first convention of jehovah’s witnesses of the summer at the richmond coliseum.
Next thing you know they will be going to the Elders saying that they accidentally masturbated 7 times in the past week.
Or
They had a wet dream that they keep trying to re-live.
smiddy
http://www.richmond.com/news/local/city-of-richmond/article_8dec9e79-b243-5265-80ee-fee138922f80.html.
at this rate, soon they'll let infants get dipped:.
lindsey jackson, 14, of king george county was among the 33 people who were baptized saturday during the first convention of jehovah’s witnesses of the summer at the richmond coliseum.
How come the Bible / Jehovah in all his wisdom , since he created us never mentions masturbation that occurs in either sex.?
Males get erections when their adolescents , not even teens , answer that Jehovah .? Why ?
4000 years of human history according to the Bible that contains murder , genocide , rape , incest ,theft ,adultery ,etc.etc,
Yet their is no mention in either the Hebrew scriptures or the Christian Greek Scriptures of the practice of masturbation , which has been going on since Adam was a boy . Oh and lets not forget Eve also and the female species that also engage in this practice when the need arises.
Yet their is no mention of it in the entire Bible , why not ?
It is a fact of life .
smiddy
i went to the mid week meeting and looked at the attendance figures on the noticeboard for the three congregations that share the local kingdom hall.
i wrote down the three previous sundays attendances and this sunday (after the referendum) too.
cong c. (95 pubs) 74/82/73/90.
AA , that is so true It`s the ones that leave the" truth" but the" truth" never leaves them .
They are fence sitters ,or the ones who get blown this way or that way depending on the wind.
Not only have they never made the" truth" their own , they have never convinced themselves of it`s untruth.
Every disaster that occurs whether it is caused by humans or is a natural disaster , they flock back to the KH.to find out if it`s the GT or the big A. impending .
They are truly still victims of the cult mentality.even though they live most of their lives outside the Borg.
What`s this red R that`s appeared on my post ,it`s now gone.
smiddy
i was raised as a jw and 1975 expectations were pretty intense.
as i recall, most people did not leave after the failed expectations but many s l o w e d down.
now, i think most of the 1975 witnesses are gone or barely in.. is the older generation still around in the kingdom halls or are they much gone?.
I was about 36 years old then and a MS., it had been building up since the publication of the book " Life Everlasting In Freedom Of The Sons Of God" ? pointing out that in their view 6000 years of mans existence would end in 1975.
Little did I know then that it was not the first time they had predicted the 6000 years ended at another date.
The organization spoke out both sides of their mouth at this time , they alluded to Jesus Christ taking up his power as the enthroned king and beginning his rule over earth being an appropiate time for him to do so , 6000 years of Satans rule and the 1000 years reign of Christ Jesus to follow.
Remember they had a 7000 years as a creative day back then ,6000 years under Satans rule and the last 1000 years under Christ Jesus rule., so it would be appropiate that Jesus Christ would take up his Kingly power in 1975.
Or close by to that date , they then said it could come earlier than 1975 or it could come after 1975 but it would not be years , it would only be a matter of months .
Then after the event had come and past they put the blame on the Rank & file for running ahead of themselves and jumping to wrong conclusions absolving themselves of any blame.
That was the first time I had a dint in my faith , but it still took many, many years before I spat the dummy.
My wife & I, my 2 boys ,my DIL , my SIL and her 2 kids , my nephew , my grandson ,are all free of the Borg.
Their is just one neice and her family who is still under the control of the Borg.
smiddy
hi barbiehi ken!do you wanna go in service?sure ken!jump in...i'm a barbie girl, in jw worldlife is plastic, so fantastic!park the cart somewhere, and drink our coffees there.organization's doctrine's a creationcome on barbie, let's go preaching![x2].
uh-uh-oh-oh.i'm ajw girl, in a fantasy worlddress me up, make it right, i'm pioneering.you're my doll, no rock'n'roll, feel the rush in servicekiss me here, touch me there, hanky panky...you can touch, you can play, if you say: "don't tell the elders!
"come on barbie, where's that call!
Can some bright spark put it to the music ?
smiddy
shared a bit with my husband the other day about what i'd learned about cults.
how nearly (if not all) every box on the list gets checked for jw.
he got some upset!
You could ask him to show you " THE SCRIPTURE" that says humans will inherit an " earthly paradise" ?
No such scripture exists. JW`s can only refer to scriptures that they give their OWN INTERPRETATIONS too ..
When Jesus said to the person on the stake next to him "you will be with me in paradise" it could only mean ,a heavenly paradise , , why?
Simply because Jesus was never going to reside in an earthly paradise .He was going to heaven to rule not here on earth. Once he ascended to heaven that was it , he was not coming back to earth. And the person next to him was going to be with him in heaven in paradise.
I hope he reflects on his statement' I dont care if it is a cult' He might as well have said "I`m going to keep my head in the sand " or ' I`ll keep my head stuck up my arse " I choose to remain ignorant.
How do you reason with people like that
And yet the scripture says "Come let us reason together " Just another example of where they cherry pick the scriptures to suit themselves.
smiddy