Posts by smiddy

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JW as a secret society - a weak link in the Information Age.

by slimboyfat in

in the late 1990s there was magazine article that asked the question, are jws a secret society?

obviously they said no, because they claim to be transparent to outsiders and new members.

but they really are not transparent at all.

smiddy

An educated person wouldn`t / couldn`t buy into the Doctrines and practices of the WT Society, .surely.

smiddy

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looking for some material to post on facebook or at least share with my wife to somewhat inoculate her mind before the convention this weekend.. found this gem...it's as if the writers are apostates reasoning against the tactics used at this years convention.....(probably old news to many here....quite new for me).. the cunning propagandist loves such shortcuts—especially those that short-circuit rational thought.

propaganda encourages this by agitating the emotions, by exploiting insecurities, by capitalizing on the ambiguity of language, and by bending rules of logic.

as history bears out, such tactics can prove all too effective.. [...].

smiddy

It`s sad to say that all this very good information would just go over the head of the average Jehovah`s Witness.

They would see it as applying to people of all other religions but not to them .

As an example : When a JW is convicted of a crime the stock answer is " Well he/she wasn`t really a JW otherwise they wouldn`t have committed the crime"

If a member of one of Christendoms religions is convicted of a crime they say " That just proves how wicked false religion is."

smiddy

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Jehovah God,Christ Jesus ,IBSA ,why no direct communication between Heaven and Earth ?

by smiddy in

according to jehovah`s witnesses christ jesus was enthroned in heaven in 1914 .. the international bible students ,c.t.russell as president was approved byjesus christ shortly after as the channell approved by jehovah god to dispense spiritual food to his faithful followers here on earth.. why is it that after 100 years of jesus christ rule from heaven over his chosen people , the jw`s , that their is no direct contact between jesus christ and his earthly channell of communication ,namely the wtb&ts , and no direct contact from jehovah god either.. jw`s do not claim to have direct contact with god or jesus christ , isnt that strange ?

after 102 years ruling as king ?.

jesus christ is the greater moses , moses had direct contact with god and his people , so shouldnt the greater moses ,jesus christ have direct contact with his people especially since he is now ruling over them from heaven ?.

smiddy

According to Jehovah`s Witnesses Christ jesus was enthroned in heaven in 1914 .

The International Bible Students ,C.T.Russell as president was approved byJesus Christ shortly after as the channell approved by Jehovah God to dispense spiritual food to his faithful followers here on earth.

Why is it that after 100 years of Jesus Christ rule from heaven over his chosen people , the JW`s , that their is no direct contact between Jesus Christ and his earthly channell of communication ,namely the WTB&TS , and no direct contact from Jehovah God either.

JW`s do not claim to have direct contact with GOD or Jesus Christ , isnt that strange ? After 102 years ruling as King ?

Jesus Christ is the greater moses , Moses had direct contact with God and his people , so shouldnt the greater Moses ,Jesus Christ have direct contact with his people especially since he is now ruling over them from heaven ?

In the 102 years of jesus Christ heavenly reign over his earthly subjects ,Jehovah`s Witnesses and not having direct communication with them ,how and why has his earthly subjects ,JW`s had to make so many adjustments ,in some cases back flips ,Rom.13:1-2 ,that have been a total embarrasment to honest hearted Bible students.

Beliefs , doctrines , practices , that were accepted in C.T.Russells day would get you disfellowshiped if they were practiced today.

And yet C.T Russell `s beliefs and practices were approved by Jesus Christ and he was given approval as the sole channell of communication between God and man , which hasn`t even taken place yet.

Even after 102 years of JC Rule from heaven.

smiddy

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Ask An Elder

by BeeEmBee in

ok, 4 questions sprang to mind in light of the recent elders letter.. if you get to the kingdom hall and its on fire, brother a says he saw brother b set it ablaze purposely, .

who do you call first and why?

if you get to the kingdom hall and the sound system has been stolen, sister a says she saw brother b loading it onto his van,.

smiddy

Brilliant , please send that to the ARC ,Angus Stewart , it shows in a nutshell the stupidity of the 2 witness rule applied to Child sex Abuse claims and how Jehovah`s Witnesses handle it.

smiddy

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Caption This Photo From The May 2016 WT

by JW_Rogue in

her: "i'm really going enjoy talking to young billy about his masturbation problem".

him: "yes, we don't him to turn out out gay, we want him to have a happy marriage filled with hours and hours of reading propaganda together.

even the stuff that is in no way applicable to our lives.

smiddy

Her : Aren`t their a lot of women who make up a part of the 144000 in heaven ?

Him : Of course their are ,many congregations even today have women who are of the anointed.

Her : Then how is it that this illustration of all the anointed heavenly class in the future , depict everyone as having a beard and not one woman present.

Him : Good point darling , I often wondered myself how the future heavenly class had beards , as is pictured ,with the enthroned Christ Jesus and even Jehovah himself , and the anointed all having beards ,,yet I got raked over the coals when I tried to grow a beard , makes you wonder doesn`t it.

smiddy

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After Jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not a fallen angel).

by quincemyles in

after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.

the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.

jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.

smiddy

Doesn`t the book of Job allude to a fallen Angel a spirit creature to tempt humans against God ?

Just asking

smiddy

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Trenton NJ Convention... Some Brief mpressions

by Room 215 in

peak attendance (sunday): 5,645; 26 baptized.

general impression: "convention light"-- i.e.

entertainment value:(previously nil) now enhanced by leavening the boring talks with interspersed video.

smiddy

It wouldnt have anything to do with Harrison Ford , Han Solo , moving their would it ?

just saying

smiddy

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What will happen when they go full cult mode

by RobertT18 in

and they start delivering their message of judgment?

what do you think will happen when they start knocking on doors and telling people that their families will be killed in armageddon because they did not believed in jehovah.

i'm curious how people will react.

smiddy

This same expectation was happening in the mid 1970`s after the 1975 fiasco , it never eventuated .

And it will not happen now or even ever....why ?

Simply because if they did that they could no longer dangle the carrot in front of the gullible.

And that is what keeps this religion alive , forever . hold the carrot in front of the rank and file and you can lead them up the garden path forever.

Threat of the Great Tribulation being imminent , Armageddon being imminent , has kept this religion alive for over a hundred years , with other phrases that has suited them well is , just around the corner , within this generation ,before the end of this Century oops can`t use that one anymore. , any day now .within 10 years , within 5 years ,it`s so close now , etc.etc.

When are the ordinary JW going to realise , "You can fool all of the people some of the time , but you can`t fool some of the people all of the time," and then the rest have just got to wake up to the fact they have been conned all these years.

smiddy

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There is a new letter to elders about Child Abuse

by ttdtt in

anyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.

smiddy

I have just sent an e-mail to Angus Stewart of the ARC into child sexual abuse informing him of this letter.

Hopefully , he will be able to use it to the advantage of the royal commission .

Maybe others might like to do the same ? All the more the merrier ?

Does anybody have contact details for the UK , Goddard Report into child sex abuses ? where this information could also be sent ?

smiddy

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When did the governing body go from 12 to 7 members?

by Tameria2001 in

i have been out and away from that cult since 2001. back then there were 12 members of the governing body, and now i'm learning that number has come down to 7. when did this change take place, and what was their reason for dropping the number?.

smiddy

Seven members are better than 17 or 12 , do the maths ,more $$$$$$ for each of us , when we head for the hills when the imaginary GT breaks out.

smiddy