in jw theology, what happens to adam and eve?
are they resurrected and become heirs to paradise on earth?
or will they become two of the heavenly class?
Adam and Eve are toast , they committed the unfogivable sin of disobeying God while in a perfect state of existence.
And all the human race including animals have suffered indignatarie of health and death ever since .
No such punishment was meted out to Satan or his Demons however
in geoffrey jackson's autobiography published in in the watchtower, he states that him and his wife went to serve as missionaries on the island nation of tulavu in 1979, and there were only 3 baptized witnesses in all of tulavu, and he translated all of the witness literature into the tuvaluan language in 1980, printing it right there on the island.
the article says they served as missionaries there until 1985 when they were assigned to the samoa branch.. .
in july, 2008, the watchtower society penned a letter to the un human rights council about the treatment of jws in tuvalu.
How many countries did the Jehovahs Witnesses identify themselves as a Cultural Organizations and not as a Religion .?
Two that i know of ,Mexico , and Cuba.
Any more ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreptyyo6l8
FTS,
You source SBS review of Pauline Hansons maiden speech , out of 19 questions she is given a fail of 10 .
On the other hand she is given a plus of 7 ,with 1 debatable and another one as judge for yourself score.
SBS says she got 10 things wrong , however she got 7 things right with i debatable and 1 judge for yourself ,which could be construed as 9 points in her favour as 10 points against her.
Thats almost like a 50/50 score in my book.
I think its indigenious to say she is an ignoramus , and she certainly has captured the support of many who share her concerns.
Does she condemn all muslims ? no of course not ,she is only concerned with the extremist elements in Muslim society, and we need to be more vigilant in screening who comes into Australia.
Do I disagree with that statement no I dont , do I agree with everything Pauline Hanson stands for ? no I dont
And let it be said clear and loud I am for freedom of speech and pauline Hanson has that right to say what she says , whether I agree or disagree with her is irrelevant.
when they sent out internal letter to elders regarding the binding of elders book , worldly men could do the job but only under supervision of a elder.
but under no circumstance could a sister touch the book.
the idiots put it in print, any elders wives on this forum should take it up with their man.
Women make up a greater percentage of baptized Jehovah`s Witnesses than men .True ?
And presumably their are a good number of women that profess to be of the anointed class ,a part of the 144,000 .
Every illustration of the heavenly ,144,000 the society has ever published to my knowledge , shows they are all male with beards ,not one woman is shown amongst them.
What does that say about the JW Societys attitude about women.? It speaks volumes to me.
It`s been said their is no gender among the Spirit /Angelic class , then why are they all depicted as males with beards ? and no women ?
one thing i have enjoyed since leaving the jehovah's witnesses is learning about science and evolution.
it's so great to be able to look at things without the fog of religious belief clouding things.
of course i have learned a lot from cofty and his threads on evolution, but one thing i struggled with was what causes instinctual behavior in animals for example, what tells birds to fly south for the winter?
I see where your coming from LisaRose ,
I often wondered how birds knew their were fish in the waters ,rivers and oceans that was food for them to eat.
Another one was how did bears know when Salmon were even in the rivers , let alone when they were migrating upstream to breed , and was food for their taking.
It`s easy to say they instictively knew that , but HOW ?
Why would birds who live on the land and fly in the sky even know their was a source of food beneath the waters.
And the same can be said of bears , why would that concept even enter their brain ?
I shall have to look at the link you mention in more depth to see if it answers my questions.
this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.
a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.
the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.
It sounds like good news to me.
i have been out of the cult for over 20 years.
i left when the idiots changed the meaning of generation in 95 and the internet came to life giving me the links to see just what a mind numb bunch i was with.
i now live in a populated area where there is a hall about half a mile away.
Thanks for the clarification ToesUp ,I can relate to your experience and no doubt ,many more can also..
Take care
lewis edwards is an australian freelance journalist / writer who has written a series of articles about jehovah`s witnesses in "the news hub" , the latest on the 9/15/ 2016. very well written on " the everyday life of a jehovahs witness".
i reccomend you read it.. jarrod booth also has an extremely interesting article in this publication .
"the news hub".
Thanks for posting those links ,I`m clueless about doing that.
If you search that site their are a few articles dealing with the religion , all well presented.
ok so i was stupid and looked at the text for today, i do not know why i did it.
i lost a couple of brain cells and put myself into an even deeper depression over it.
it was just that my husband had it out and i thought what can it hurt, wondering what they are up to.
Hang on ,is , "Armageddon" just around the corner ?
or is it ,"The Great Tribulation" , that is just around the corner ?
Hang on again , maybe its , The" New System" that is just around the corner .
I`m confused , where does the "Paradise Earth " fit in with this picture.?
And not to be picky , but where in the Bible does it even mention a paradise Earth ?
i have been out of the cult for over 20 years.
i left when the idiots changed the meaning of generation in 95 and the internet came to life giving me the links to see just what a mind numb bunch i was with.
i now live in a populated area where there is a hall about half a mile away.
Not meaning to be pedantic Toesup however ,
" we are avoided like the plague .They tried contacting us a few times and then gave up ."....?
All in the same sentence ,one thought contradicts the other..Which is it ?
"They avoided you like the plague ", or "They tried contacting us a few times and then gave up "
Aside from that I`m glad for you and your spouse , life is better for both of you and your kids.
Sorry if I `m being a little picky .I do appreciate your posts.
