Posts by smiddy

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Question for Christians: What Religion are You Now?

by LaurenM in

i know many on here are atheist.

but for the christians on here...what religion are you now that you are no longer a jw?

i'm still undecided as to whether i believe in god.

smiddy

LaurenM

Do you realise their are over 40,000 Christian sects in the world today ? 40,000 ,and their has been no God to intervene and point out who is the right one .

Supposedly God dealt with humans before the Christian era on a regular basis ,using Angels , dreams , visions prophets , both male and female ,and really had a good communication with his creation. According to the Hebrew Scriptures known as the Old Testament.

Of course people in those days had no knowledge of modern science , technology , or critical thinking ability.

Dont you think it strange that Jehovah God has changed his approach to communicating with humans ?

To the point of not communicating at all with them ? no Angels ,no dreams , no prophets either male or female ,

and no visions ?

Apparently Holy Spirit never existed in the Old Testament because it never ever led to new light that is used by the WTB&TS today.

So does it ? or even should it matter what Christian religion you are today ? No God has ever sanctioned any of them these past 2000 years , why would you believe he / she is going to do so now,?

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Where Can One Get Answers To Questions From JWs?

by Cold Steel in

there's also a fellow who calls himself the "watchman," but he seems as critical as many of the so-called "apostates.

" is there a place where one can ask questions from knowledgeable believers or "a" believer?

i really don't want to take the bible lessons.

smiddy

Cold Steel

You have been on this site for 10 years and you ask this question ? My mind boggles ,are you for real ?

I think you are a waste of space on this board , and believe me ,I dont say that lightly its not my thing.

good bye

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Hold The Front Page! JWs Fold in Port Dover

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

yes, it was front page news in simcoe...... .

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http://www.simcoereformer.ca/2016/10/21/jehovahs-witnesses-fold-in-port-dover.

smiddy

" This move had nothing to do with the property "Henderson said Friday."The building was very well maintained.This move happened because a lot of members moved to look after older family members "

Sure as hell got that right

,The Watchtower Society was never ever going to look after their ageing members , their not our problem ,they are not employees of the WTB&TS , they are just volunteers who chose to associate with us on their own convictions .

The Governing Body of Jehovahs Witnesses have no obligation to look after these ones that is their familys obligation not ours.

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Shunning ? did JEHOVAH shun Satan ?

by smiddy in

i don`t know if this has been addressed before , however it appears there is an inconsistency and a big one at that with the practice of shunning with jw`s.

elders / ministerial servants look out for the spiritual health of the congregation , and if they see something they feel is detrimental to the spiritual health of the congregation they are going to act to rectify it, .

they take appropiate action where they think is necessary .

smiddy

bump , for newbies to ponder .over.

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Realtors and Financial Advisors needed: Watchtower Real Estate deals

by Hecce in

https://a836-acris.nyc.gov/ds/documentsearch/partynameresult?page=2.

i don’t know if this topic has been discussed before.

here are the public records of some of the re transactions done by the wt.

smiddy

Wouldnt all of the relevant Government institutions have already looked at these on going Real Estate sales by a not for profit Religious organization , that has a charitable status , with Tax exemptions and wonder where all this money is going ,who is profiteering from it all ,and when does a not for profit organization cease to be a not for profit organization when they are reeking in Millions of dollars in commercial ventures such as Real Estate.?

And how can the WTB&TS be a charitable organization when they do no charitable works to anybody ,including their own members .?

How many legal loopholes can the WTB&TS use to defraud the USA Government of Taxes that are due them before being exposed as Charlatans using religion as a blind.

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Speculation? What would Watchtower be now if it had fully embraced the internet / technology 20 years ago

by joe134cd in

this has probably been discussed before so please feel free to include links as well.

so what would wt be now if it had encouraged it's members to use the internet or technology for spreading the good news.

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smiddy

They would have been history , just a smidgen of what they are today.

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If Jehovah is our 'father', he would want humankind to independently govern itself

by fukitol in

all parents want their children to grow up, mature, and become happily independent.

no normal father or parent would ever want to govern and rule over their children forever.. so if jehovah exists and he is a heavenly 'father' to his human progeny, and if we truly are in his image as his children, then humankind was always destined to govern itself.

if you believe in the biblical narrative, jehovah always intended to let go of his human children and let us rule ourselves when we were ready.

smiddy

An interesting plausible theory fukitol, however not without its flaws.

On the one hand you assume the creation account in the Bible is true about Adam and Eve ,Satan , and the challenge presented therein .

On the other hand you reject the Bible account of Christ Jesus thousand year reign ,Armageddon , and apparently all that has happened in between .

Just another case of cherry picking what one wants to believe about the Bible ?

I think your post should have stopped at the end of your first four sentences and not brought the Bible into play at all , then it would have been a more credible argument , especially against JW`s. at the door.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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Have a pretty interesting story to tell.

by Dexter in

i am new to this site, was always told by my elder father if the site accidentally appeared on the comp screen it was satans doing.

anyways, i am 28 y/m who had the unfortunate life of being the last of three kids to be born ins.

my oldest sibling lasted about 8 years before she was d,f.

smiddy

Welcome Dexter , I too look forward to more of your posts.You are fortunate that you have seen the TATT at a relatively young age , many of us have been Captives of A Concept for 10 , 20 ,30 ,40 ,50 years and more

The internet , I believe has been a great help in freeing people up from control groups like the JW`s .

We look forward to people like yourself joining forums like this and sharing your storys

Once again Welcome.

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Catholic Approach to Scripture: How It Made Me Leave the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Hernandez in

indoctrinated into all things watchtower, i once believed the bible was true history, that evolution was false and evil, and that the bible could be trusted to be reliable when it touched on science issues.

then i got introduced to the official catholic bible translation of u.s. catholics, the new american bible revised edition (or nabre--not to be confused with the protestant nasv or new american standard version) and things changed.

i was shocked to learn that the nabre teaches.... the creation and flood stories of genesis are jewish adaptations of mesopotamian heathen creation-flood mythology, not history.

smiddy

Jehovahs Witnesses adopted the name "Jehovah" Catholics gave to the Old Testament God in the 13th Century. Even though they admitted it was not the correct pronunciation in the 1st Edition of the "Aid" book.

The only reason they used it was because of its popularity among christians { Catholics} and protestant churches.

Jehovahs Witnesses belittled Catholics for scaring their flock with the threat of Hell fire.

Jehovahs Witnesses threaten their members with eternal destruction at Armageddon

Jehovahs Witnesses belittled Catholics for their method of obtaining contributions from their flock mainly the collection plate .

Jehovahs Witnesses absolve the congregation from their debt for the Kingdom Hall on the one hand and on the other hand they want them to keep paying the same amount owing for the debt forever ?

The first president of the "Watchtower" organization said they would never solicit for money ,if the money didnt come in voluntarily , then that was God saying the time was up .(words to that effect)

Jehovahs Witnesses even want to take money from childrens pocket money { Caleb & Sophia }

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Disassociation revealed what type of man my father really is.

by Paul Mooney in

i began my exit from the jehovah’s witness organization about 5 years.

i was a 4th generation born-in, with all the baggage that comes with having the “spiritual heritage” attached to the group.

i was an elder/bethelite/pioneer/whatever other useless privilege there was, i had no family or friends outside of the organization… my entire life was that org.

smiddy

Looking at the topic of the OP , I thought here we go again.a son being berated by his father for leaving the "truth" How wrong was I .

I loved this post paul , not only for the love your father has showered on you for the stand you have taken against the religion , but also for identifying the captive environment one partner has against a believing partner , and family and friends , especially when they are elderly and truly feel they have no-where else to go.

I wish you all the best for you and your Dad.