Its 2000 years since Jesus supposedly died whether it be on a cross or a stake who cares ? Obviously Jehovah does not as he has been silent all these years ,so whats the deal with humans debating this ?
Posts by smiddy
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39Trinity...cross...Does it matter?
by NikL ini've been thinking about this for a while.. did jesus diee on a cross?
does it really matter?
it doesn't change anything that i can see.. is god a trinity?
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maths
by pepperheart inon the front of the 2016 year book it says that the watchtower is spending $200 million us dollars a year on special pioners etc if they get $1 billion us dollars from selling all the buildings at bethel in new york by my mats that gives them another five years or so.what might happen after that ????
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smiddy
Didnt Jesus throw out the money changes from the temple ?
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India ... what's the latest?
by no-zombie inwe haven't heard much recently about india.
whats the current situation over there?
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smiddy
Never mind about the population of India not hearing or knowing the Kingdom message being preached by Jehovahs Witnesses .
I would guarantee 99.9% of householders in the western / Free World have never heard of the "Kingdom Message" delivered by Jehovahs Witnesses , why ?
Simply because that is not the primary message preached by Jehovahs Witnesses certainly not in the 33 years that I went from door to door.
What about you ?
What were the campaigns you participated in ,? The watchtower ,The Awake ,The NWT of the Bible ? this book or that book all to do with WT publications that would have been like looking for a needle in a haystack to find the kingdom message inside those publications.
Test yourself either mentally or physically : Wherever you live go D2D around the block and ask the householder what they know about Jehovahs Witness beliefs.
All you will get is : They dont believe in blood transfusions Maybe you will get they dont vote ,or they dont go to war And thats about it .
Even though JW`s have been going from D2D for over 100 years that is all you will hear from householders.
No one will tell you:
" they believe Christ Jesus is to reign over the Earth for a thousand years and a paradise for mankind."
That is one of the final reasons I walked away.
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My families shunning has gone to a whole new level
by pale.emperor in8 months df'd.
loving a life of freedom.
however, my family are all shunning me.
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smiddy
Its very hard for me to comprehend how a mother or father can disown their own child because of religious differences or for that matter children disowning their own parents for the same reasons.
Any religion that has this policy and condones this type of behaviour from its members should be named and shamed at every opportunity.
Its nothing short of a disgusting policy and practice to be associated with any religion.
My heart goes out to you pale emperor for having to go through this cruelty.
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Broke, Dumb & Stupid....GB wants only these people.
by krismalone inmaybe this will become a new catch phrase describing the type of people that the governing body loves to have in their organization and that they create if they're born ins.. broke......dumb......& stupid.
let me explain:.
broke: the gb keeps their members in poverty by condemning higher education and demanding that all their time should be spent peddling the wt propaganda and going to all the meetings.
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smiddy
Mum , I think we could also use the" man with the writers inkhorn" to describe whats happening in the" Borg" the disenfranchised unloved psychologically harmed and otherwise rejected are the ones that are finally seeing the JW religion for what it truly is a cultish man made religion and leaving it in droves.
Its heartening to see so many waking up and getting out of her.
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Do you think I should get something for my wife for her birthday?
by schnell inmy wife is still nominally in, but only because it "makes me (her) happy".
there is nothing academic about her beliefs and when i try, she interprets me as negative.. but then she cusses like a sailor and watches certain movies with me.
her birthday is coming up and it's also right around valentine's day.
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smiddy
I hope you both have a great day ,"witness" or no "witness" what woman doesnt like to be treated like a queen for one day
Give her the full works. (and dont expect anything in return if you know what I mean) LOL
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New here..help greatly appreciated
by Confusedandangry inhi everyone i don't even know where to begin.
i recently saw leah remini's series on scientology thanks to my husband (semi-active jw) and i felt like my eyes were being opened for the 1st time in my adult life.
i felt shaken almost sick to my stomach with each episode i watched.
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smiddy
Welcome confused & angry believe me your story is not uncommon .To learn the TTATT (the truth about the truth ) can be very daunting for the first time. There are many people here who can give you support and encouragement as you go through this realization that you have been conned all these years like the rest of us.
I know its hard to admit it but thats whats happened.
You will be given many books by well meaning friends on here to look at that will help you to understand what you believed & how to cope and why the JW`s are just another American religion.
And they are all good ,dont get me wrong.
My suggestion is by an ex Elder Don Cameron "Captives Of A Concept" downloaded on Lulu for about 7$ its worth its weight in gold.
I wish you all the best in your journey into freedom from religious captivity.
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What finally helped you to peek behind the curtain
by UnshackleTheChains ini'm interested in finding out what it was that finally enabled you to open your eyes to the real truth of watchtower.
what started me thinking, was the societys very own book...' 'revelation..it's grand climax at hand'.
i found that book farcicle.
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smiddy
Looking back I think it started with the revelation book and the interpretation given about the Cedar Point Ohio conventions from 1922 onwards for the next 7 years being prophesised in the book of Revelation.
I thought thats stretching the point a bit too far.
I thought that was so not right<I believe that started it all and then I started questioning the preaching work and pointed out to a few JW`s that if you asked anybody in this street,that street or any other street what JW`s believed in the only thing they would say is, no blood ,or dont salute the flag,maybe dont vote and that would be it .
No householder would be able to say "they are waiting for Gods kingdom under Jesus Christ to Rule the Earth and live in paradise."
So for the past 100+ years nobody knows why we go preaching from D2D !
That was the beginning of the end for me and yet it still took a few more years to finally break free in 1993 .
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Post war paranoia - or - The Truth Will Make You Nuts
by undercover incheck out this wacko bs from the 1943 'the truth shall make you free' book:.
page 342-343in the postwar "new order" jerusalem's modern counterpart, "christendom," will surround herself with armies of an international police force for her continued world domination.
the roman catholic hierarchy will attempt to act as the.
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smiddy
Jehovahs Witnesses have always had it in for the Roman Catholic Church they have been obsessed with persecuting the R.C.Church since the early days even calling it the principle opponent of Christ Jesus kingdom On Earth because of their adoption of the League Of Nations the counterfeit Kingdom Of God On Earth as they said.
A casual look at there publications will show how they are obsessed with the R,C.Church over many decades .and of course the Pope and his title was another thorn in their side.Such blasphemy they said .
Are the claims of the Governing Body today any less a blasphemy ? against God ?
Or is it all an insult to our intelligence .
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Trinity...cross...Does it matter?
by NikL ini've been thinking about this for a while.. did jesus diee on a cross?
does it really matter?
it doesn't change anything that i can see.. is god a trinity?
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smiddy
Under Rutherford JW`s just had to be different from mainstream Christendom eg: Torture stake not the cross ,anti-trinity, blood transfusions a no-no ,empathis on the name Jehovah and not Jesus ,door to door ministry for everyone, all are ministers of God even baptised children ,neutrality of politics and nationalities ,
It seems like they were determined to go against everything mainstream Christendom stood for. just to set them apart as a new religion blessed by God.