how ironic that they have asked jws to not look past - tight pants - so called "affectations" - beards - long hair - short hair - and like 1000 other meaningless and trivial things.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-june-2017/can-you-look-beyond-outward-appearances/.
But soon as he/she becomes a baptised publisher thats when appearances matter ,JW`s can be all things to all people while they are not JW`s but as soon as they become a baptised JW , OH ! how things suddenly change.
Just another example of JW`s speaking out of both sides of their mouth .
a friend of mine (a jw) delivered a premature baby, and the outlook is grim.. she is posting updates on facebook, and where everyone else is offering prayers for them both, and how "jehovah loves them both very much", and i got...nothing.
nothing that would be comforting.
big man in the sky has zero to do with this, only medical science and chance will have any bearing on this.i wish i could lie convincingly to her and to myself and have something nice to say.
freddos comment was good + and that should mean a lot to her to know your thoughts are with her.
How come their all black skeletons , I thought all skeletons were white , what are you trying to say Tahoe ?
By the way you left out agnostic.
i am a newbie, and yes current jw.
i have been dealing with a lot confusion for months now.
i guess it started last year when i found myself losing my zeal, desire for spiritual things.
Welcome confused3426
",The searcher" on this forum pointed out their are something like 30 scriptures in the New testament that state Christians are to be witnesses of and for Jesus Christ and that his name is to be above all other names either in Heaven ,on Earth , or under the Earth . Phil.:2 10
Their is no scriptures in the New Testament (Christian Greek Scriptures ) that say Christians are to be witnesses of Jehovah , not one.
Isa 43:10-12 written well before Christianity to the Jews right ? did they ever identify themselves as Jehovahs Witnesses ? No ,were they ever chastised by Jesus for not doing so ? No
It`s an interpretation invented by the JW religion to distinguish themselves from mainstream christianity,to set themselves apart with no basis for doing so.
I wish you well on your journey for the real truth,take care.
judge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
So a judge imposes a $4ooo dollar a day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents and it is now 8 months ? since that court a san diego Superior Court Judge made this judgement against them ?
And still nothing is done ?
Forgive me for being cynical but I see this all the time
Threats are there by the authorities , the WT wears them down in time and nothing is done to bring the WT to account for their actions.
No wonder I am cynical to whatever is said about bringing the WT /JW religion to account for their abhorrent treatment of child sexual abuse victims by not reporting any of these 1006 cases to the appropiate authorities.
that means up to over 3018 Elders who were privvy to this information and never let any authority know about these abuses.
And nobody is prosecuted ? After all this time ?
G.Jackson was not charged ? Vincent Toole was not Charged ? for giving false evidence misleading the ARC ? The Elders who gave evidence were not charged for failing in their duty of care and protection of children by not reporting dangers of a sexual nature to ninors once they knew about it ?
Their are so many things they could have been prosecuted against ,but nothing was done ,Why ?
you tell me.
Thats why I am a cynic.
i went to meeting today and the sister in front of me was upset song 134 now song 139 no longer contains jehovahs name.
they took it out.
i never even noticed .
That was pathetic ,anybody watching that would run a mile wouldnt they? If they had a brain in their head they would anyway
Maybe someone should remind this sister that Gods name they look up to was devised by a spanish monk in the 13th century , before that it was only four hebrew letters that never contained the letter J
The letter sounding J does not exist in hebrew.
The GB knows this but they are sticking with a bastardisation of Gods name instead of going with the more appropiate name Yahweh.
now they are not printing between 40 and 60 million magazines a month what do people think they are doing with the money?.
Anybody who doesnt think someone somewhere is not siphoning off some of this money has to be very naive.
Just who and how many people are in control of all the money that the WT generates from all the various means money is coming from .
Real Estate sales : Millions of $$$$$$$$$
Donations from 8+ million members ? :millions of $$$$$
Kingdom Hall donations ,loans ,Pledges , KH`s owned by the WT and re-sold , Gifts from estates ,Wills left to the WT,publications sold and bought by 8+ million members ,Investments ,Interest from banks ,off shore bank accounts ,and lets not forget the money kids forego their ice creams to donate.
I`m sure their are many more money trails I have overlooked ,however how many lawyers , financial advisers ,accountants ,treasurers ,etc., do they have looking after all this money ?
My personal belief albeit with no evidence is that sooner or later their will be a scandal where millions of $$$$ will be unaccounted for in the religion ,its human nature and just a matter of time ( if it hasnt already happened )
I personally know of an Elder in a congregation who used congregation money for his own benefit but was caught out and he was under the hammer to pay it back or the police would be called in.
He claimed he had every intention to pay it back when his deal was finalised .
You dont think JW`s can do such things ?
Check out crimes committed by Jehovahs Witnesses ,every crime you can think of has been committed by good standing Jehovahs Witnesses.
hey guys!
i'm new on this site and am a non jw here married to a jw.
my husband's family are active members and they daily post articles on facebook from jw.org which i know is meant for me to see and read.
Welcome Charity 7
,Jehovahs Witnesses like to make a big deal about the instrument of Jesus crucifixion and by doing so cloud the reason for his crucifixion in Christian belief.
Its a pity they dont make such a fuss about the name of GOD they claim to believe in and its more correct pronunciation of Yahweh instead of Jehovah a name a Catholic spanish monk came up with in the 13th century.
Hebrew never had a J sounding letter.
You could almost believe JW`s worship the Torture Stake instead of the cross the way they harp on it.
Edit to add:This statue hung in the pleasure palace of one of the caesers of rome as romans were known for using the torture stake.
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/152841/pinoy-jehovahs-witnesses-russia-face-deportation.
pinoy jehovah’s witnesses in russia face deportation.
philippine daily inquirer / 05:40 am february 24, 2017. .
So can anybody give us an update on the figures that are involved here about how many Phillipines will be deported ? and what that effect it will have on their partners?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=boizyklif4q.
Lynn Gardner suggests abuse victims go to the authorities by inference either child sexual abuse authorities or the police. and not just leave it up to the congregation Elders to sort it out.
Has lynn Gardner done either of these options herself ?
Hopefully she has taken her own advice
If she hasn`t done so I would ask why not.?
She has come on this public forum making these claims ,I would hope she has also made these claims public to the appropiate authorities to get justice for the abuse she claims have been made against her.
I have attempted to make lynns case and appease those who question her integrity.
I wish you well Lynn Gardner in your recovery and peace of mind.
