Posts by smiddy

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Deflated after realising my inactive friends are POMI

by Isambard Crater in

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i'm going through an extremely hard and dark time right now and really yearned for the support of people i know in the flesh, and i really thought revealing my serious doubts and frustrations to a few close friends who became inactive several years ago would help.

they attend the memorial and no more than 2 sunday meetings each year, and haven't preached for several years, so are still technically baptised-but-inactive.. it broke my heart or at least left me feeling very alone when they all (they don't know each other and live in separate areas) told me that they can sympathise but reckon i should stay with "the truth" (their words, still) as it's the best thing there is.

it's like i'd discovered a new group of people, not pimo (physically in, mentally out, like me) but pomi (physically out, mentally in).

smiddy

I can understand your frustration with these type of people.

I discovered this decades ago and have made comment on it before.

"ManyJehovahs Witnesses leave the "truth" but the "truth" never leaves them"

or in other words

"many religious people leave a religion but the religion never leaves them"

These jehovahs witnesses are no different from their counter-parts in Christendom who claim they are Catholic or Church of England for example and never set foot in their respective church or participate in church activities or attendance,

Except for special occascions like marriages ,funerals ,baptisms ,xmass or easter.

And in the case of a JW the memorial or "Special talks" or the CO or Do`s visit.

They are R.C , / C of E, or JW in name only .

They are the ones to be pitied

It is not a religion to them based on knowledge and reason it is based solely on feelings ,emotion. and not on an accurate or even an inaccurate knowledge of what they think they believe.

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Today's W.T on GB not being inspired is having ZERO impact on most J.W's

by Isambard Crater in

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the congregation i attend had it's watchtower study on thursday night because of l.d.c work this week-end, and another congregation i have some not very spiritual friends in had their watchtower study on wednesday.

from what i have delicately prised out of people, the congregations loved the watchtower study this week, saying it was so encouraging and all the usual stuff, with no-one seeming to realise the g.b.

said they're not inspired, so the spirit int he past has moved them to teach wrong things, and all the other ideas excellently summed up on reddit.. today's watchtower will wash over the heads of most j.w's like it never even happened, the all remaining as loyal as ever, and it makes me so, so sad..

smiddy

The mind boggles how they/our brain can switch off what we dont want to hear and keep deluding ourselves with what we want to hear.

Frightening really

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Great News in the EX Jehovahs Witness World!!!

by Christian Gutierrez in

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we are so overjoyed with what is happening in the exjw community!

it is places like this forum where many can have a place to interact anonymously and be felt like they are understood.

you guys are awesome!

smiddy

Actually JW Gonebad I find it happyfying that baptisms are so far down in numbers and the only onezeez or twozeez are poor children of the brainwashed JW. parent.

How humiliating this must be for the elders assigned to give the baptismal talks at these venues!

And ro me I think that is great news ,hopefully that will wake a few more up out of their delusion.

( I know what you meant though LoL}

Its good to see Christian and Katja ? his wife interacting with this community now than when they just promoted their own videos and never commented further

Kudos to you both for your humility and sharing not only your vids but also contributing to discussions taking place

I wish you both well

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My 89 year old father will be standing by a cart tomorrow.

by longgone in

yes, that's what he just told me.

unbelievable.

this cult had no shame.. 😞😞😞 .

smiddy

longgone while I feel your frustration given his age ,I dont think anything would be accomplished by bursting his bubble.

Not that i think you would try to do this

However I know it sucks to think he is doing it believing he is serving the Lord.

Take care , my thoughts are with you.

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Does the Average R&F JW understand what grace is in Christianity ?

by smiddy in

i`m showing my ignorance here , not being an active member of any church before joining jw`s as a 19 yr old ,whenever i was ever confronted with the question of "grace" i was always at a loss to give an effective answer from a jw point of view.. was it just me ?

or did anybody else have a similar experience ?.

(ps , i dont think i ever heard the expression " grace" in a religious sense in all my 33 years in the borg.studying the wt.).

smiddy

I`m showing my ignorance here , not being an active member of any church before joining JW`s as a 19 yr old ,whenever I was ever confronted with the question of "grace" I was always at a loss to give an effective answer from a JW point of view.

Was it just me ? or did anybody else have a similar experience ?

(PS , I dont think I ever heard the expression " grace" in a religious sense in all my 33 years in the Borg.studying the WT.)

In contrst to that I wouldnt be surprised if many nominal Christians didn`t understand the terminology of Watctower speak .

JW`s just had to be different from mainstream Christianity

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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is obviously a question for the older generation.

i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

was the society as strict as it is today?.

smiddy

My wife and I attended 4 congregations in Melb.Aust. in the decade of the 1960`s .They were pretty conservative and took the "truth" seriously,Not much socilising at all it wasn`t encouraged back then.

When the book "life Everlasting " came out in 1969 ? with the 6000 yrs since creation speculation was rife that 1975 would usher in te "New System of Things" and the special brochures that were to be distributed around the world that time in the early 1970`s rumours were abound that 7 were to be distributed with the last couple denouncing false religion and the Governments of the world that would bring on the Great Tribulation.

Of course nothing of the sort happened.

We were in Qld. by that time where the 3 congregations we were in were much more liberal and relaxed though we did have a couple of really loony Elders.

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August 2017 Watchtower - Screwing with J.W.'s minds again

by The Searcher in

in the latest issue of double-speak, i'd like to highlight these two statements:.

page 3, par.

2 - "...how encouraging it is to know that jehovah’s faithful servants in the past felt free to express the same question that may loom in our minds, and they were not condemned for asking it!

smiddy

Are the Jehovahs witnesses in Russia urged" to be willing to wait on the outcome" of the appeal to their being banned ?

No ? They are defying that ban by continually meeting as a congregation.

Then they are not being in subjection to the superiour authorities are they , disobeying such an authority by defying what Jehovah has put in place. Rom.Chap.13

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u can speak against Christ but not the GB

by Damascus in

so i am in trouble for questioning the whole rats nest of deceit and lies.

in matthew 12 jesus says: whoever speaks a word against the son of man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the holy spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come.

" the gb seems to replace 'holy spirit' with themselves.

smiddy

Then ask the self-righteous interrogator, "Should we accept everything we're told is truth - without question?"

I would say the average Elder would say yes ....and he wouldnt see the problem with his answer

Thats how indoctrinated they are .and clinging on to their self importance. in a small pond.

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The Governing Body WILL be sued in America collectively and individually in the near future!

by notsurewheretogo in

so lloyd evans aka cedars says on his facebook page when he attended a reveal jw child abuse event.. .

interesting stuff but no details!.

smiddy

40 years ago even going back to the beginnings of the 1960`s I was a die-hard JW ,however I noticed even then that the public talks that were advertised and given out by leafletes in our local community they never ever brought in any members of the public.

The Jehovahs Witnesses are delusional. Full stop.

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Mental Illness

by Tallon in

over many years i have been pondering how mental illness has impacted upon jw's due to the effects of indoctrination.

in my case; when i was 21 i had a breakdown and was hospitalised for 6 weeks.

i was diagnosed with anxiety tension state disorder.

smiddy

Their have been a few investigations in the world linking the mental capacity of Jehovahs witnesses and whether the religion improved their mental position or was responsible for decreased mental capacity in its adherants.

Was the religion responsible for decreased mental capacity ,or were the mentally unstable more likely to have joined the religion.

From memory I think one might have been conducted by the Netherlands ? (in Europe anyway)

Another I believe was conducted by someone in Western Australia.