Posts by smiddy

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Who holds the Burden Of Proof?

by stuckinarut2 in

when we as former witnesses wake up and choose to leave the society, it is mainly because we value truth and honesty.. the society tries to make out that we are in the wrong.

that we have "left the truth".. but, who really holds the burden of proof?

do we (who leave) need to prove that the society is not the "truth", or does the society need to prove that it is the "truth".. thoughts?.

smiddy

Well said doubtfull1799

So how can you have left a person who was never even there for you in the first place?

Of course what they are really saying is how can you leave a religious organization that speaks for a mute God.

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What is behind your choice of forum user name?

by stuckinarut2 in

jw
friends

just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

smiddy

I thought I would just use a reference to a common name that would throw people off the track if they were trying to identify me.

Hey I was a bit paranoid when I first joined up.

Hey chook your not an aussie that lived in melbourne are you ? Their was a kid in my school that had the nickname? chook

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Jehovahs Witness/sport/music/celebrity/status and ,contrast that with those denied that experience as JW`s.Young ones today.

by smiddy in

jw
friends

we all know about the" world famous" jehovahs witnesses who have had successfull careers in the sport and entertainment, and literature world ,and if your new to this board google it.

what about the young jw`s who see this and are told this is not for a jw ,its making a name for yourself where you should be highlighting jehovahs name and his organization.. but do the young ones see the organization taking the successfull jw`s in their field to task for making a name for themselves ?

iwant to be a world skater ?i want to be a 1st class footballer?

smiddy

Thanks Vidiot you probably hit the nail on the head.

I just wonder how many gifted children were denied their potential by parents who followed the GB/JW line in discouraging their own children from reaching their goals in what field they excelled in .

Do their parents ever lament such a decision ?

Do the children ever hold a grudge over their parents for not letting them pursue their dream?

I know how I would feel now if I had prevented my son from advancing in a field he excelled in because of this religion and he lost his opportunities to progress further.

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Realistic depiction of exJW on tv

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i recently watched a series which was broadcast a year ago on uk channel 4 called dicte - an import from denmark.

the main character is a journalist, but it is revealed in the first 5 minutes that she was brought up as a jw.

when she was in her teens, she had a baby which was removed from her.

smiddy

Yes, my wife and I are a a fan of Dicte ,its currently on SBS on demand in Australia.The first series says a lot about her relationship with her parents who disowned/shunned her for leaving the religion, and as it has gone on their are still references to her upbringing as a JW

A first rate detective series. The Danes can produce good TV shows.

The Bridge was great and the Tunnel also

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Jehovah's Witnesses act like 'Flirts' with people!

by stuckinarut2 in

we were just musing that jws act in a "flirtatious" manner with people in the community.. they show such "sincere" interest in people when they call.

they seem like such kind, caring and thoughtful people - really interested in their lives and welfare.. people are often quite impressed with the jws manner, and their well dressed presentation.

people (especially vulnerable ones who are going through difficult pressures in life), are drawn in and made to feel special by the witnesses as they call back.. return visits take place.

smiddy

Thats a good observation stuck and I agree with you.

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Follow-up to my letter to my JW brother

by Roger Kirkpatrick in

a follow-up to my letter to my brother which i posted earlier: .

my brother, ronnie, had texted my sister, linda, and me regarding our late mother's estate.

linda engaged ronnie in a text conversation about our mother’s ashes because he has ignored her texts for several years.

smiddy

So if roger is not using real names including his own or his family members there is no problem and I hope that is the case.

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What was Jesus last name???

by James Mixon in

jesus in hebrew means "savior' and christ in greek means "messiah".

these are identifiers --not names in jesus case.. where did the name christ come from, his parents???

?i can see the name jesus (first name) but christ.

smiddy

Never mind about his surname ,wasnt his" christian" sorry first name supposed to be Immanuel ?According to prophecy ?

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Jehovahs Witness/sport/music/celebrity/status and ,contrast that with those denied that experience as JW`s.Young ones today.

by smiddy in

jw
friends

we all know about the" world famous" jehovahs witnesses who have had successfull careers in the sport and entertainment, and literature world ,and if your new to this board google it.

what about the young jw`s who see this and are told this is not for a jw ,its making a name for yourself where you should be highlighting jehovahs name and his organization.. but do the young ones see the organization taking the successfull jw`s in their field to task for making a name for themselves ?

iwant to be a world skater ?i want to be a 1st class footballer?

smiddy

We all know about the" world famous" jehovahs witnesses who have had successfull careers in the sport and entertainment, and literature world ,and if your new to this board google it.

What about the young JW`s who see this and are told this is not for a JW ,its making a name for yourself where you should be highlighting Jehovahs name and his organization.

But do the young ones see the organization taking the successfull JW`s in their field to task for making a name for themselves ? No. Why not ?

If they can get away with it why cant they ? Iwant to be a world skater ?I want to be a 1st class footballer? I want to be a songwriter singer ,I want to be a first class tennis player . They all have the potential to be just that.

Yet the Governing Body ,the Elders will discourage them from taking that course.

Do the young ones /teenagers see the hypocricy of the GB denying them of their chance to make something of themselves in this world ?in the field that they excell in ?

And not speaking out about those who claim to be Jehovahs Witnesses and speaking to the media identyfying themselves as such ? who are successfull in their fields ? and they are not called out upon by the GB as not representing officially as one of Jehovahs witnesses.

Why dont they do that .?

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searching

by dogisgod in

can someone please help me find the video from the society regarding not advancing children's talents?

it's about a child who is very good at something musical and has been invited to participate in a special advanced course but his father explains how that is worldly thinking.

something along those lines..

smiddy

my niece had gifts in music and talents in the violin and piano and was encouraged to further her talents with higher education by her teachers.

Needless to say she gave it all way for the "truth" and never pursued her talents.

I think its so sad that the religion stifles so much possible talent among their own youth .many years down the track I wonder if they regret what could have been.

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“Tree of good and bad” means what?

by venus in

if “tree of good and bad” were literal, it would mean adam and eve would know what is “good and bad” only after eating of that tree.

however, even before eating of it, they would think “it is good for us to eat of this tree” which means they are already endowed knowledge of “good and bad.” that means “tree of good and bad” is symbolic of something.. since religious organizations interpret this differently, each reader has to adopt his own conclusion.

for me it looks like this: one thinks of good and bad in relation to himself—if something is beneficial for him he would say it is good for him, and bad for him if it is not beneficial.

smiddy

Wasnt this story about Adam and Eve written down by Moses some 2000+ years after the event ?

Why are we even discussing it as if it was a true historical event ? An eyewitness account ?

Was Jehovah asleep for the first two thousand years ? and didnt have anybody on call to record it ?

If Jehovah God felt that this information about Creation was so important for humans to know about and he saw fit to have i included in the Bible why wasnt it recorded at the time it ocurred ? by an eyewitness or somebody close to being an eyewitness.?

Maybe even by Adam himself ? after all he did live for 930 years didnt he ? Wouldnt it have more weight if Adam had recorded it in writing ?

It makes you wonder doesnt it ?