Brilliant , please send that to the ARC ,Angus Stewart , it shows in a nutshell the stupidity of the 2 witness rule applied to Child sex Abuse claims and how Jehovah`s Witnesses handle it.
smiddy
ok, 4 questions sprang to mind in light of the recent elders letter.. if you get to the kingdom hall and its on fire, brother a says he saw brother b set it ablaze purposely, .
who do you call first and why?
if you get to the kingdom hall and the sound system has been stolen, sister a says she saw brother b loading it onto his van,.
Brilliant , please send that to the ARC ,Angus Stewart , it shows in a nutshell the stupidity of the 2 witness rule applied to Child sex Abuse claims and how Jehovah`s Witnesses handle it.
smiddy
her: "i'm really going enjoy talking to young billy about his masturbation problem".
him: "yes, we don't him to turn out out gay, we want him to have a happy marriage filled with hours and hours of reading propaganda together.
even the stuff that is in no way applicable to our lives.
Her : Aren`t their a lot of women who make up a part of the 144000 in heaven ?
Him : Of course their are ,many congregations even today have women who are of the anointed.
Her : Then how is it that this illustration of all the anointed heavenly class in the future , depict everyone as having a beard and not one woman present.
Him : Good point darling , I often wondered myself how the future heavenly class had beards , as is pictured ,with the enthroned Christ Jesus and even Jehovah himself , and the anointed all having beards ,,yet I got raked over the coals when I tried to grow a beard , makes you wonder doesn`t it.
smiddy
after jesus fasted for 40 days, he was tempted by a man (not an evil angel) to turn stones into bread, jump from the temple and bow.
the tester was a pharisee of the ruling class.
jehovah's witnesses believe the tester to have been an evil spirit or leader of fallen angels named satan the devil.
Doesn`t the book of Job allude to a fallen Angel a spirit creature to tempt humans against God ?
Just asking
smiddy
peak attendance (sunday): 5,645; 26 baptized.
general impression: "convention light"-- i.e.
entertainment value:(previously nil) now enhanced by leavening the boring talks with interspersed video.
It wouldnt have anything to do with Harrison Ford , Han Solo , moving their would it ?
just saying
smiddy
and they start delivering their message of judgment?
what do you think will happen when they start knocking on doors and telling people that their families will be killed in armageddon because they did not believed in jehovah.
i'm curious how people will react.
This same expectation was happening in the mid 1970`s after the 1975 fiasco , it never eventuated .
And it will not happen now or even ever....why ?
Simply because if they did that they could no longer dangle the carrot in front of the gullible.
And that is what keeps this religion alive , forever . hold the carrot in front of the rank and file and you can lead them up the garden path forever.
Threat of the Great Tribulation being imminent , Armageddon being imminent , has kept this religion alive for over a hundred years , with other phrases that has suited them well is , just around the corner , within this generation ,before the end of this Century oops can`t use that one anymore. , any day now .within 10 years , within 5 years ,it`s so close now , etc.etc.
When are the ordinary JW going to realise , "You can fool all of the people some of the time , but you can`t fool some of the people all of the time," and then the rest have just got to wake up to the fact they have been conned all these years.
smiddy
anyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.
I have just sent an e-mail to Angus Stewart of the ARC into child sexual abuse informing him of this letter.
Hopefully , he will be able to use it to the advantage of the royal commission .
Maybe others might like to do the same ? All the more the merrier ?
Does anybody have contact details for the UK , Goddard Report into child sex abuses ? where this information could also be sent ?
smiddy
i have been out and away from that cult since 2001. back then there were 12 members of the governing body, and now i'm learning that number has come down to 7. when did this change take place, and what was their reason for dropping the number?.
Seven members are better than 17 or 12 , do the maths ,more $$$$$$ for each of us , when we head for the hills when the imaginary GT breaks out.
smiddy
anyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.
Could somebody with the know-how pass this letter on to the Australian Royal Commission Into Institutions of Child Sexual Abuse ? I`m sure they would be very happy /appreciate recieving it .
Also the letter sent to the Goddard report /invesigation in the UK into child Sexual Abuse , are two that come to mind .
And if their are any other cases around the world where Governments are looking at institutions that are under investigation of Child Sexual Abuse , I`m sure they too would appreciate a copy of this letter.
smiddy
so my mam visited today.
she recently went to convention in north east england, newcastle i think they still have them at.
before she left she said (this is her exact words btw) "you have put me in a difficult position and i can't come to see you anymore".. she told me that as i live with my partner and we are unmarried that she can't visit anymore.
I`m with GrreatTeacher on this .It`s her choice , your mother is cutting you off /shunning you .Make her feel the consequences of her actions by not sending her any photo`s , DVD`s, or letters , or e-mails , about your daughter.
She has made her bed let her lie in it.
" Abusers project their bad behaviour on others " so very true.Don`t be a victim It`s also emotional blackmail
smiddy
some months back i posted a topic asking if jws were now encouraged to volunteer their time for charitable organizations, as one of the volunteers who i work with was promoting jw.org to one of the spanish speaking workers.
because of that, i guessed that he was a jw.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5708790489939968/jws-now-encouraged-volunteer.
well the other day as he and i were folding and stacking tables after distributing food to the needy, i mentioned that after i retired i got bored and decided to do volunteer work.
For a clued up, long standing in good faith JW to support worldly charities is just not on.If the person is a JW , he is either new , mentally unbalanced ,( no offence it happens ) or whatever else you come up with , but he is not representative of JW`s. as a whole.
Think about it ,JW`s teach that only Gods Kingdom is going to fix mankinds woes.Nobody else.
That the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one Satan the Devil , if you support any of the worlds programs you are supporting Satan , especially in this time of the end.
You cannot be slaves to two masters , etc , etc, .
And if a JW was giving his time and money to further a worldly charitable organization a part of Satans System of things , instead of giving that time and money to the WTB&TS he or she would be brought before a JC to please explain.
And as another poster explained JW`s charities for what they are only benefit JW`s or their family or friends , not the general public , as is usual in theses cases .
smiddy