If an Almighty God was really the authour of the many books of the Bible ,how is it that Moses was the first one to put anything in writing , 2000 years after the event of creation.? Maybe thats why Genesis 1 & 2 have differences about creation ,God had a seniors moment informing Moses.to its accuracy.
Posts by smiddy
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Who has the authority to decern what the bible really teaches?
by TTWSYF inso i ask because of all the books, mags and testimonies that the wts promotes.
not only the wts, but many other christians attempt to speak about the bible with authority.
how do we measure who is an authority if we don't know that much?.
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Are Jehovah`s Witnesses of today, aware, or even care about their early history of the 1800`s ?
by smiddy inin the 1960`s when i was a new convert , a 20 year old , i devoured the book "jehovahs witnesses in the divine purpose" outlining the early history of the restoration of true christianity in the world.it helped to convince me then that this was indeed the true religion......not that i remember much of the details it contained nowadays .. i understand there was a poor attempt to mimic it with the " proclaimers " book a much sanitized version of the early history of the jw religion.
what reputable organization in the world ,secular ,religious or otherwise ,doctors their own early history/ beginnings unless they have something to hide or are ashamed of.. how many jw`s today would know that they were formed as the " international bible students association" in the late 1800`s , or that their first president of that association was none other than w.h.conley ,and not c.t.russell.. does it even matter ?
does anybody really care ?.
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smiddy
I think you summed it up pretty well steve2 , the new generation of JW`s have no knowledge of the Bible or Christianity of the first Century and less knowledge of their own early history , and how could they when the organization revises their own history as the years progress.
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Serious question..Leviticus 20:15 Why slay the beast???
by James Mixon init's not as if the sheep was trying to seduce the shepherd, the poor creature was violated.
we have come a long way from those days, thank goodness.
so why slay the sheep or beast?????
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smiddy
In these scriptures of Lev. arent the beasts actually raped ?, its certainly not consensual sex ,so according to scriptures about a female being raped , the rapist has to marry the victim and never be able to divorce her .
Shouldnt the rapist of the beast have been made to co-habit with it for the rest of their life ? After all it was their choice.Wouldnt that have been consistent with scripture instead of killing the beast ?
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Introduction
by robrog8999 inhello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.
in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.
the name is robert.
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smiddy
Welcome robrog 8999,
You have stated that your here to :Read testimonies from members, Learn from members ,& to read advice from members.,which is fair enough.However , if you simply limit yourself to only those people , dont you run the risk of getting a totally biased view of the religion.?
Wouldnt it be wiser to also get the viewpoint of past members ? some who have been members for many ,many years ? and get their viewpoint also ?
If you were going to buy a used car from someone ,would you only trust the one who is the seller ? and not listen at all to someone else who used to own the car ?
Only that way could you make an informed rational decision as to the benefits or not of purchasing the car.
The same is true in making choices about religion,their are always two sides to consider .
I hope you make the right choice.
Take care.
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Hey everyone
by coffee_black inpopping in to say hi.... been away from the forum for a long time.... had some serious health issues starting at the beginning of this year.
on the mend now, and getting back into the swing of things.... great to be alive!.
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smiddy
I`m glad to hear your doing OK now and look forward to more of your posts.
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Are Jehovah`s Witnesses of today, aware, or even care about their early history of the 1800`s ?
by smiddy inin the 1960`s when i was a new convert , a 20 year old , i devoured the book "jehovahs witnesses in the divine purpose" outlining the early history of the restoration of true christianity in the world.it helped to convince me then that this was indeed the true religion......not that i remember much of the details it contained nowadays .. i understand there was a poor attempt to mimic it with the " proclaimers " book a much sanitized version of the early history of the jw religion.
what reputable organization in the world ,secular ,religious or otherwise ,doctors their own early history/ beginnings unless they have something to hide or are ashamed of.. how many jw`s today would know that they were formed as the " international bible students association" in the late 1800`s , or that their first president of that association was none other than w.h.conley ,and not c.t.russell.. does it even matter ?
does anybody really care ?.
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In the 1960`s when I was a new convert , a 20 year old , I devoured the book "Jehovahs Witnesses in The Divine Purpose" outlining the early history of the restoration of true christianity in the world.It helped to convince me then that this was indeed the true religion......Not that I remember much of the details it contained nowadays .
I understand there was a poor attempt to mimic it with the " Proclaimers " book a much sanitized version of the early history of the JW religion. What reputable organization in the world ,secular ,religious or otherwise ,doctors their own early history/ beginnings unless they have something to hide or are ashamed of.
How many JW`s today would know that they were formed as the " International Bible Students Association" in the late 1800`s , or that their first President of that association was none other than W.H.Conley ,and not C.T.Russell.
Does it even matter ? does anybody really care ?
JW`s make a big deal about their claim to base their religion on first Century Christianity , however they seem to be very lax when it comes to sharing facts about their modern day movement on the scene in the late 1800`s .
No first Century christians ever identified themselves as Jehovah`s Witnesses , the Jews never ever did, and no other christians ever did until J.F. Rutherford in the 1930`s , even though it was a Spanish Catholic Monk who first coined the name Jehovah , adding vowels to the consonnants of the four Hebrew letters of the tetragrammaton in the13th Century C.E.
So from the13th Century till the 20th century the Catholic religion in their writings about scripture were using the name Jehovah that is seven centuries of using the name Jehovah ,which is inscribed on many churches throughout Europe.....So much for christendom hiding that name.
Much the same can be said about protestant religions during this time , they also used the name on churches and in their writings .
Do you think the average JW today are aware of these facts or even cares about them ? Are they bible students or not ?
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If a JW Came To Your Door How Would You Handle It?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses have never come to my door but they have come to my girlfriends door.
i have coached her as to what to say or ask but it appears that they always seem to come when she's not there.
.....just curious would you get into it with a jehovah's witness at your door especially if it was someone you did not know?.
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smiddy
The last time i had a discussion with the JW`s was when I was house sitting in a different state.And I kept the 2 JW`s on the doorstep for over an hour At least it kept them from going to other doors that morning .
The next time I have an opportunity to engage them ,taking a leaf out of Searches post I will ask them to show me in the "New Testament" where it is written that followers of J.C. are to be "witnesses" of Jehovah.?
Their is not one scripture that instructs christians to be a witness to or for Jehovah , whereas their is something like thirty scriptures in the New Testament that admonish christians to bear witness to and for Jesus Christ ,and that it is his name that every knee should bend down to ,on earth in heaven and under the ground ,in other words to worship JC ,not Jehovah.
In fact Jesus Christ never used a personal name for GOD in the New Testament. and nor did anyone else. The tetragrammaton does not exist in the manuscript JW`s base their Bible on in the New Testament.
And not let them deviate from that argument.
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Wollongong, New South Wales, Australia!
by darkspilver infrom the front page of jw.org.
same view on google street view .
https://goo.gl/maps/b9wnsnxzu2r.
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smiddy
I imagine Jehovahs Angels stopped the mouth of these ferocious beasts from devouring true Christians spreading the word of the Watchtower.
Hallelujah
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Beth Sarim
by HereIgo inhow many of you know about this san diego mansion?
i just found out about it recently.
apparently it was built for old testament faithful men to live in upon resurrection in 1925 such as abraham, moses etc.
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Zeb
Fair comment , you and I and every other human being is what , fore-ordained to be born at a particular location ? on earth ?
Didn`t the WT publications of yesteryear indicate that resurrected ones would be brought back in familiar surroundings ? so as not to freak them out ? being resurrected ? wouldnt freak them out ?
Then again isn`t California the new promised land ?
Shepherdless ,how about tricking your wife into watching on video , Australian governing Body member Geoffrey Jackson answering the question put to him ,by Angus Stewart at the ARC into Child Abuse if Jehovahs Witnesses were the only ones that had the truth.His answer on video for all to see was "that would be presumptuous of me to say that "
Vin Toole on the ARC, when asked "What do you know about theocratic warefare , he stated words to the effect" I have heard that ,however I dont know what it means " He is a practicing JW and a lawyer.
Its all on video.
If the Sexual Child Abuse cases, over 1006, against Jehovahs Witness children are false , apostate lies , why then is a Governing Body member being questioned and lies , under oath ,and a JW lawyer ,also under oath lie to the ARC about what they know .
1006 cases of JC ? equals 3018 Elders who were involved in these investigations , and not one of them contacted The police or child protection agencys in all these years .
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Hypothetical: If WTS Reformed...?
by Cold Steel inas i said in the subject line, this is purely hypothetical.
what do you think would happen if the wtbts leaders decided to reboot some of the organization's more controversial practices.
not that they would deny their claims to be jehovah's earthly representatives, nor the key elements of their eschatology; but in administrative outlooks.
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The only way the WTB&TS could be reformed is : Jehovah God stepped in and replaced all of the G.B. members with much younger blood.
And even that may not accomplish it.
However , since Jehovah God does not exist ,thats not going to happen , and neither will the JW religion ever be reformed .
Jesus Christ has supposed to be ruling over the Christian Congregations since 1914 , and what has he done / accomplished these past 102 years ,? sweet fuck all , as I see it.