Posts by smiddy

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Hospice and JW

by Terry Clees in

i am a bereavement coordinator with a hospice company.

i have noticed that most often jw patients decline chaplain care and also the family ends up declining bereavement care.

where i work our chaplains do not proselytize at all...they merely walk with the patient in their faith at the end of life.

I believe steve2 has summed this thread up quite nicely and other posters have offered good counsel .As steve 2 said maybe terry is new to his proffession or young and naive or just doesnt have a clue about JW beliefs .

Which I might add would have been well covered in the preceeding threads

Terry Clees you no doubt had good intentions with your post however the religion of Jehovahs Witnesses are not your average Christian Religion they are a high mind control cult that views all other christian Religions as Apostate /Babylon The Great The World Empire Of False Religion that Jehovah is going to destroy at Armageddon being the most reprehensible of false religion with their claim of representing Jehovah God and Christ Jesus and then there giving support to the United Nations Organization the counterfeit Kingdom Of God on Earth as opposed to Jesus Christs Heavenly Kingdom as prophesised in the Bible.

Thats what they believe. so they will not entertain interfaith of any sort.

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Old people ask ... questions ... no answers

by Lostandfound in

just random questions for the book questions old people ask.

when can i stop donating my last penny every month to the wt?.

when can i have sex with no guilty conscience due to wt teachings?.

smiddy

How big is this fricken corner that Armageddon is just around ?

The Bible writer of revelation said Jesus is coming soon , we are now 2000 years later , how soon is soon ?

The Bible says that in the day Adam and Eve ate the fruit that was forbidden they would die , they didnt ,did God lie ?

Has Satan been cast as the bad guy when he actually told the truth that Adam and Eve wouldnt die on that day but know good and bad ? as he said .

Who did David kill with a stone from a slingshot was it Goliath or was it someone else (check your Bible )

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If "the Truth" is the truth, why are witnesses so scared of research?

by stuckinarut2 in

it is an often asked question i know, but it perplexes me.. if witnesses are so convinced that they have "the truth", why is the act of researching information from external sources so taboo?

didn't the bible itself tell people to "use their powers of reason" and also praised ones like the boreans for researching things they were told??.

seriously, if there is no doubt about the organization being "god's channel" on earth, and it alone having the "truth", surely researching would only enhance such 'facts'?.

smiddy

The truth is...... Jehovahs Witnesses cant handle the truth ...... and thats the truth.

Edit to add : Jehovahs Witnesses have been conditioned to not think for themselves , they have been conditioned to only believe what the GB tells them to believe .

They claim they only believe the Bible ....,nonsence ,....why else would they change what they believe the Bible says when the GB says they have new light on a belief .....and then they change what they previously believed the Bible said.

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Thoughts on African Americans and Slavery

by Simon in

let's start by saying that slavery is of course a terrible thing, one of the worst crimes imaginable, and that "slavery" rarely implies good treatment, anything noble or defensible.

nowadays, even god doesn't escape judgement from our enlightened views with passages about slavery in the bible usually glossed over because they are shameful.. but not all slavery was equal.. because of the media, movie industry, racial tensions in the us regularly shown on the news and our taught history, i think most people's knowledge and idea of slavery is that of the north atlantic slave trade where white people took africans to work in cotton fields.

this idea is probably also re-enforced because the largest group of descendents of slaves we see today are african americans (usually in the us or places they subsequently migrated to).. but it's incomplete.. it's only when you look into it more that you discover that there was much more to the slave trade than that, otherwise it would have been just called "the slave trade" and not "the north atlantic slave trade".. some 12.5 million slaves were taken from africa to the us with just under 11 million surviving the trip so it obviously took a terrible toll immediately, even before any maltreatment once they landed in the americas where conditions and treatment were truly awful.

smiddy

Thanks for this topic its very interesting and informative.Another aspect I find about slavery is the treatment of women in the Muslim world , isnt this another form of slavery ?

The subjection of women to be less than 2nd class citizens having little or no rights in their own society , the genital mutilation that is rife against young females in their own lands and performed illegally in most other countries with inadequate laws enforced to end this abuse , yet condoned by their own culture and sadly by their own women.

And it always puzzeled me why the Bible never condemned slavery and actually condoned it.

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Are baptized Witnesses that are no longer in the "truth", but were NEVER DF'D, now to be shunned and treated like disfellowshipped ones?

by Dunedain in

a relative of mine was telling me, that in his, and a few neighboring congregations, there is a little confusion amongst some of the jw's about this "issue".

some families are having a hard time about whether certain relatives will be attending certain family functions, because some family members that are no longer in the "truth", might be invited to these functions.

mind you, these persons were never disfellowshipped.

smiddy

Isnt marking a person in the congregation a form of shunning anyway ? and thats been going on for decades so I dont see anything really new about it.

Then again confusion about how to apply counsel JW`s are given has also been around for a long time it makes a mockery of "they all speak in agreement" BS.

One person is stumbled by some action or dress on your part but another one isnt one will mark you the other one wont.

Marking one is similar to shunning one., whats the difference.

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Winnesses of ME (Jesus)...Acts 1:8...NOT Winnesses of Jehovah

by NikL in

jw
friends

so jesus said in acts 1:8 .... you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you,+ and you will be witnesses+ of me in jerusalem,+ in all ju·deʹa and sa·marʹi·a,+ and to the most distant part* of the earth.. .

witnesses of jesus and not jehovah.

so i was a witness for years.

smiddy

Did the Jews in Isaiah`s day Isa.43:10-12 have any idea about a spiritual Israel ? Wouldnt they have understood naturally that scripture applied to them as a people ?

Yet they never took on the name Jehovah`s Witnesses or called themselves such

And Jesus never rebuked them for not doing so .

Their is not one scripture in the New Testament that says Jesus Disciples are to be witnesses of Jehovah yet their are about 30 that state his disciples are to be witnesses of Jesus.

Note : the name Jehovah didnt exist before the 13th Century it was represented by 4 Hebrew letters YHWH

and nowhere in the New Testament do these four Hebrew letters exist,so no "Jehovah" in the New Testament

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Mindset JW

by ScottyRex in

jw
friends

i don't think for one moment i will ever be other than the person i am.

by that i mean i will be me, a kind person who has chosen a vocation as a nurse to help others, to comfort relatives, hold dying ones and just, well carry on as me.. now i'm 46. i love my mum, and even my dad.

he isn't all that bad nowadays.

smiddy

Good for you bro.the world needs more compassionate caring people who do good for other people

You are fortunate that mom & dad didnt disown you as many others have done for not believing.

Take care S.R.

Edit to add: Watching that clip all I could see was the bethelites singing and dancing through Bethel with mops and toilet brushes and brooms. LOL

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ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

by Richard Oliver in

i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

smiddy

ioo6 cases of child sexual abuse handled by Jehovahs Witness judicial committe`s conducted by 3 Elders on each sitting equates to 3018 Elders who never reported them to any appropiate authority.

Child protection Authorities or the police

Thats the problem here not how many were JW`s in responsible positions or not who committed the acts ,the problem is 3018 Elders sought to cover up these crimes from the appropiate authorities.

Do you understand that R.O.?

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The re-writing of digital history....JW.org style. Interesting clip.

by stuckinarut2 in

we all know that one of the major advantages the society now has with everything being on its official website, is the ability to quickly change content when they desire.. so older articles that show them to have made mistakes, are simply re-written or edited...or even just deleted!

simple!

"nothing to see here...carry on".

smiddy

So true anders A sometimes I too forget how insignificant they really are.

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The re-writing of digital history....JW.org style. Interesting clip.

by stuckinarut2 in

we all know that one of the major advantages the society now has with everything being on its official website, is the ability to quickly change content when they desire.. so older articles that show them to have made mistakes, are simply re-written or edited...or even just deleted!

simple!

"nothing to see here...carry on".

smiddy

I wonder sometimes why other religious organizations dont call out the JW`s on their obvious backflips ,revising of their history and so forth and exposing them as frauds.