Posts by smiddy

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The propaganda game

by Gorbatchov in

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just viewed a documentary about north korea, on netflix, called the propaganda game.. interesting: .

- north korean people have a kingdom smile;.

- the jughe doctrine is made that way that it can't be understanded.

smiddy

W/T Feb.2017 ,So why are their many christian religions today that have far greater numbers than JW`s ? Isnt GOD blessing them more than us ?

All religions can claim they have called upon people who have been praying for help in their time of need .

Jehovahs Witnesses cannot and more importantly do not claim to be any more favoured /blessed by any God than any other christian religion and back it up with concrete facts.or evidence.

And I will gaurantee any evidence /fact they provide can be matched by any other Christian religion.

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Baseball: Jackie Robinson in Cuba

by Hecce in

should jackie robinson's widow, rachel robinson, go to estadio latinoamericana in havana on tuesday, she'll see a game at the same site where her husband played 69 years ago just before breaking baseball's color barrier.. rachel robinson and her daughter, sharon, traveled to havana sunday aboard air force one for president obama's historic visit to cuba, including tuesday's exhibition game between the tampa bay rays and the cuban national baseball team.. jackie robinson's groundbreaking 1947 major-league season began with spring training in cuba as a member of the brooklyn dodgers' class aaa montreal royals farm team, playing games at what was then called el gran stadium.. as a kid growing up in cuba in the 1940s and '50s, my father, cesar, attended games there, watching his favorite team, almendares, one of havana's four professional baseball teams that played in the cuban league every winter.. the cuban league, which debuted in 1878, had been integrated since 1900 with white major- and minor-league players having negro league players and black cubans as teammates every winter..

it was the reason then-dodgers' president branch rickey relocated the team's spring training base from jim crow-era daytona beach, fla., to havana in 1947 as he prepared to elevate robinson to the majors.. .

my father didn't get the chance to see robinson play in cuba, but he saw many others, including future hall of famers ray dandridge, monte irvin and tommy lasorda and a then-little known dodgers minor league player named kevin connors, who would go on to find more fame as hollywood actor chuck connors in the rifleman.. when i was a kid, i would listen to my father's stories about the different american players — both black and white — who would play in cuba each winter.

smiddy

Thats a very interesting post hecce ,when did rachel robinson and her daughter sharon actually go to Cuba ?

What year ? It must have been a big event ,how come nobodys commented on it yet ?

And they travelled aboared Airforce One ?

Your post is two days old where are all the American baseball fans hiding ?

I`m an Aussie and dont know much about BB except what I`ve seen on US movies ,The game is played over here though not big from what I can tell.

-little known Dodgers minor league player named Kevin Connors, who would go on to find more fame as Hollywood actor Chuck Connors in The Rifleman

That was interesting also.going back many years now in Aussie TV shows.

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The propaganda game

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

just viewed a documentary about north korea, on netflix, called the propaganda game.. interesting: .

- north korean people have a kingdom smile;.

- the jughe doctrine is made that way that it can't be understanded.

smiddy

I will look out for it thanks Gorby.

That reminds me of a wiered elder we had at our hall who seriously stated " that you could pick out JW`s in a crowd by their Kingdom smile "

That was over 30 years ago .

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Fear guilt etc

by zeb in

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i switched on the tv the other night late.

there was a lady preacher joyce?

who said there are four things that prevent us becoming fulfilled in our lives.. fear guilt insecurity worry.

smiddy

Joyce Meyer ? She is probably more than likely aiming those words to her USA audience and the western world who dont live in a war zone ,and have the same suffering and concerns you so rightly mention rebel 8.

The Bible she preachers to her captive audience are all under that umberella of fear ,guilt,insecurity and worry if they dont measure up to the standards of the christianity she preaches.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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Indoctrination or insistence on being right?

by OutsiderLookingIn in

nobody likes to be wrong.

so after being taught that they have "the truth" for so long, is it that jws just don't want to admit that they are wrong so they'll keep going in the same direction rather than reversing course?

this is different from indoctrination when you truly believe what you're saying.

smiddy

I think its a combination of both .

Older people who have been in it for many years have invested so much time and effort in it find it very hard to admit they have been wrong all those years.

In this case it is the investment of time and energy ,monetary value they have put in all those years that they cant back down and admit even to themselves that it is not the truth. So they keep deluding themselves.

And they keep defending it.

The other case I think is a different kettle of fish ,these people have gone out of their way to promote JW`s to all and sundry that Jehovahs Witnesses are the only true religion on the planet .

So their ego now gets in the way they have been so vocal promoting the JW religion and now they cannot go against what they have been so vocal for it would be humilliating for them to admit they have been so wrong..

So they keep deluding themselves.

And they keep on defending it

And as I said I believe it is a combination of the two indoctrination and insistence on being right that both parties can have a mixture of the two .

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Even if it's not the truth, it's still the best way to live

by Simon in

how many times did you hear that gem?

it often went along with "the truth is a protection" which is their way of saying "living a moral life is good for you ... and you can't do that without us".. but think about what people are really saying.

i think the real message is "i know it's not the truth, but i chose to follow it anyway".. it seems like a pre-emptive argument because they know they can't defend it as "the truth" so instead they switch to defending it as a lifestyle.. of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.. so just remember, next time you hear someone saying "even if it's not the truth" what they are really admitting is that they already know it isn't..

smiddy

Good post Simon, so by their reasoning a catholic who is a conscientious objector would fit their criterior as would an Adventist who wont take up arms against another human being in war or a member of the Salvation army who wont participate in warfare.

And I am sure their are other religions who would fit that criterior.

However all of the above do engage in humanitarian/ practical works that benefit mankind and not just give lip service and an excuse for a magazine as Jehovahs Witnesses do .

So Jehovahs Witnesses have nothing to crow about.

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"Has the Large Hadron Collider Disproved the Existence of Ghosts?"

by unsure in

"if i understand what you just declared, you just asserted that cern, the european center for nuclear research, disproved the existence of ghosts.".

"yes," cox replied.. http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2017/02/16/has_the_large_hadron_collider_disproved_the_existence_of_ghosts.html.

what do you think about this relating to.

smiddy

I`m inclined to agree with Boss Vegas comments ,but then what do I know about such things.

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Church gets own police force - are the Dubs next?

by SadElder in

just read this article in the washington times.

other sites have similar stories.. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/12/briarwood-presbyterian-alabama-megachurch-gets-sta/.

can you imagine the dubs with a sworn police force with arrest powers?.

smiddy

OrphanCrow---Defense-----Isnt that exactly the reason a nation goes to war to protect itself from an invader ?

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Russian Ban exposed but not THE ARC...WHY?

by tor1500 in

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just your thoughts....i've been all over this site, everyone says, that if jehovah was backing the org.

then why so many things happen in the org.

child abuse, shunning, and so on....but my question or thought is why is the banning of witnesses all over the media, but the arc isn't wasn't picked up in the media, like this (oh little leaks here and there, but nothing major) nothing like the nyt or any major media venue where the friends would see it and couldn't deny it, even if they wanted to....why does the media care more about banning witnesses than child abuse...i know even if the arc was exposed many of the friends would stay, but would be shamed, because they talked about other religions...or maybe jehovah is bringing the org.

smiddy

tor1500

In the religious world Jehovahs Witnesses are nothing but a small sect that are nothing more than a curiosity with weired beliefs .

They are not newsworthy to the general public just a nuisance that knocks on your door at the most inopportune times trying to sell their religion.

Nobody cares about them. 8 million worldwide ? chickenfeed .And only been around for about 100 years .

The Catholic Church ?been around for 2 centuries with well over 1 billion believers worldwide ,thats newsworthy.

The media of today are not so much interested in news as they are in entertainment / ratings ,what is going to capture the most viewers /readers.and generate more profits to their organisation satisfying their shareholders.

No one is protecting the organisation

No Jehovah

No individuals

Its because jehovahs Witnesses are just another small religious sect of American origin started about 100 years ago that nobody cares about and they are not newsworthy.

Think about all the other sects that sprang up in America and elsewhere in the past 200 years how newsworthy are they ?

think about it.

Assemblys Of God,The Church Of Jesus Christ Of The Latter Day Saints ,(Mormons ) Christian Scientists ,The Seventh day Adventists ,The Christadelphians ,The Exclusive Bretheren ,Scientology ,etc,etc.

And their are heaps more those are just a smidgeon of the better known ones.

In the main the general public do not care about them they are not newsworthy and neither are JW`s

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If There is no God is Murder Wrong? - Michael Shermer

by cofty in

a very useful 8 minute talk on a topic that is raised frequently by believers in this forum.. ....

smiddy

If God so loved the world he gave his only begotten son John 3:16 ,I presume he meant the whole world so why did he for at least four centuries favour the Israelites over all other nations ?that then existed ?

And himself being responsible for the death of millions of people who were not his chosen people ?

Wasnt/isnt God supposed to be impartial ?

According to the bible he he was responsible for creating seperate nations when he confused the languages at Babel

He certainly had no love or sympathy for any nation other than the Israelites for the first four centuries.

Jehovah God murdered millions of people before the birth of Jesus Christ.

Millions of people who dont believe in any God accept that murder is wrong

Thanks for posting cofty an interesting video