Many ex JW`s over the years have stopped posting on this site obviously having moved on without seeing the need to cast aspersions on those of us for one reason or another who choose to remain and keep posting here.
Just saying.
i haven't been on an exjw site for months and months.
i frankly am way past the point where i define myself as an exjw, i am who i am and it doesn't have really anything to do with the way i was raised or spent a considerable portion of my life, i also refuse to be bound by witness requirements as to leaving, contact with witnesses, or some kind of responsibility to whack people who seem perfectly happy as witnesses over the head with 'the truth about the truth'.
i have recently run in to a few people that seems to simply obsess with their lives as witnesses and why they left and in some cases the way they were treated or mistreated, or the need to "do" something.
Many ex JW`s over the years have stopped posting on this site obviously having moved on without seeing the need to cast aspersions on those of us for one reason or another who choose to remain and keep posting here.
Just saying.
i've been thinking about the changes we make within ourselves after leaving the wts cult.
i'm not referring to how we spend our time now that we actually have some, but who we have become, or working to be?.
the gb carries on and on about "stripping off the old personality and putting on the new one.
Longgone/posters do you think their is a big difference /outcomes between born ins and converts ?
OK ,I think I need to set a standard here ,born ins up till the mid 20`s say
and converts who have been active for at least 20 years
Would that give us a fair equlizer ?
Maybe this could not be done here but I think it would be a good comparisonall the same.
i wonder if it's possible for those of us who've been out decades to have alerts or alternatively see a grouping of threads in a folder or something similar if something actually happens of interest in the borg.. i'm not really interested in the day to day stuff about this cult but i would like to know if anything drastically changes as my siblings and their kids are still trapped.
i don't know anything about creating the code for forums so i don't know what is possible but if you don't ask you don't get.
this is not a criticism it's just time for me to move on and just drop in occasionally..
I'm not really interested in the day to day stuff about this cult but I would like to know if anything drastically changes as my siblings and their kids are still trapped.
I know where your coming from X ....,I just think you have to come here either week to week or even month to month and just sift through the posts to see what interests you. and go from there.
I have been out since 1993 and I am really only interested in what latest garbage they are spewing out.though admittedly their have been some gems that posters have brought out that I would never have known about if it wasnt for this site.
I have learnt more about JW`s on this site than what I knew about them in the 33 years I was a JW ,what does that tell you apart from the fact I was a dumbass .
You need to keep coming here for the sake of your siblings and their kids.and your own peace of mind.The Borg is not going anywhere anytime soon ,so you need to be here when something does arise you can help your family members with.
one thing over the years social media has made me painfully aware of is how many times i see someone use the phrase "i'll pray for you" and the outcome is bad.
recently a friend of mine who at one time was my manager where i worked got cancer.
a lot of people were praying for him.
A friend of mine has gone to Jerusalem for the past 60 odd years and religiously he has gone to the wailing wall to pray
I asked him .What do you pray for at the wailing wall ?
He said , Every year I go their ,I pray for peace in the world and especially I pray for peace between the Arabs and the Jews .
I then said to him ,you have been doing this for the past 60 odd years ?
He said yes.
I then said well ,how is it going ,any progress ?
He then said ,I dont know, somehow it just seems like i`m talking to a brick wall.
some of y'all may know why i am asking this, but i am curious about it.. sexting in the elders book says it's enough to warrant a jc but it's very loose at it... what's y'all opinion?
do elders care alot of it?
what if it's an old case?
Young children pre-teens have access to mobile phones nowadys with the approval of their parents many of whom would not monitor what their children use it for .
Keeping in mind the society we live in today children are subject to sexually explicit material on TV ,videos,movies etc especially if the parents are lax in supervising what children can watch.
And children being who they are will find ways to pull the wool over the eyes of their parents being inquisitive about sex.especially if their peers have freedom to view such content.
So YES ,I think sexting in this sense is a very serious problem that many young people are involved in.
The next step is to send photos using your phone of nude or more explicit poses to your boy or girl friend that teenage youths are becoming more prevalent causing all manner of problems for our youth today.And of course this is a serious problem especially when one partner puts pressure on the other to do something out of fear of having it shown to family or friends. (blackmail)
In this case it should be a crime.
pork chops, grits-broccoli-cheese casserole, celery & green onions smothered in turkey broth.. oh, frabjous day, calloo callay!.
or, something like that.. tee hee hee..
In reference to your OP ,that sounds like a meal fit for a Queen.What a great grandson.
However grits ? mush ? nixtamalization sounds like something we used to cull a plague of rabbits years ago.
And that process CoCo seems like something to be avoided not eaten.
“there may be occasions when it would be good for us to reconsider a choice or decision.
it could be when the prevailing circumstances change.
jehovah altered his decision at times when circumstances changed.
new information may provide us with a valid reason to adjust a decision. King David was given faulty information about Saul’s grandson Mephibosheth. When David later received accurate information, he amended his decision.
So prior to our Baptism x amount of years ago the information we recieved then is no longer applicable so we now have a valid reason to adjust our decision because we recieved faulty information and we have amended our decision .
So how the bloody hell are we deemed apostates ?
i've been thinking about the changes we make within ourselves after leaving the wts cult.
i'm not referring to how we spend our time now that we actually have some, but who we have become, or working to be?.
the gb carries on and on about "stripping off the old personality and putting on the new one.
From my experience of 33 years in the Borg as a convert in more than 6 congregations ,I didnt observe anyone striving to put on a new Personality Looking back on it now ,I dont think anybody took that scripture seriously .
As a group of people they were no different from any other worldly class of people with their own idiosyncrasys,judgemental ,self righteous sometimes arrogant ,know it all,obnoxious behaviour .
Of course not everybody was like me.their were a few and I emphasize "few" who were genuinely nice helpful people.They were a rarity.
fyi.
wa today com au, 12 may 2017. former wa jehovah witness charged with alleged historic child abuse offences .
a former member of the jehovah witness congregation will appear in court next week after he was charged with sexually assaulting four boys.. the charges stem from ongoing investigations linked to the royal commission into institutional child sexual offences.. police allege between 1993 to 2013, the 44-year-old man sexually assaulted four boys aged between 14 and 16 at the time of the offences.. read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/former-wa-jehovah-witness-charged-with-alleged-historic-child-abuse-offences-20170512-gw37yd.html.
Kramer
I wasnt thinking of any specific Australian Law about clergy or Citizens being mandated to report allegations of any crime .
Where did I say that ?
What I was inferring to is that according to the ARC the Elders at this enquiry had an" obligation" both morally and legally to report these 1006 cases of alleged child sexual abuse that the judicial committees oversaw in those previous decades
Not only did they fail the victims in the congregation they also failed every other child in that congregation where the abuse occured.by not warning the families of the potential danger to their children.
And the other thing that was brought out in the ARC was the fact that these Elders had no regard for the children in the general community where the Kingdom Hall was situated , non Jehovahs Witness children ,apparently they had no regard for whether these children would be subjected to sexual abuse because they are not jehovahs witnesses and and not our responsability.
So the general community around a Kingdom Hall where sexual abuse occured was not informed of the potential danger to their children by any of the Elders.
The Governing Body of Jehovahs Witnesses have not only failed their own children in their care they have also failed the children in the wider community and their familys.
this morning my brother and my mother (whom i mentioned in my previous topic when we had a conversation about evolution) visited a jehovah's witness, and when they returned, they returned with the awake!
magazine that they received from the witness.
the magazine is entitled, "is the bible really from god?
Constructing a logical syllogism
1. All men are mortal
2. Jesus was a man
3.Jesus is mortal
And then their is this.
1.The Bible contains prophecies about the future
2.All of the prophecies contained in the Bible about the future have proved to be innaccurate .
3.Therefore the Bible was not inspired by God
Thank you for the post saename , indeed food for thought
"Syllogism" I learn something everyday on this board