"Eve was seduced by the serpent" the reason she disregarded Adams counsel on eating the forbidden fruit.
Maybe it was really because the "serpent" ( Satan) was a bigger dick than Adam
Just saying.
Posts by smiddy
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42“Tree of good and bad” means what?
by venus inif “tree of good and bad” were literal, it would mean adam and eve would know what is “good and bad” only after eating of that tree.
however, even before eating of it, they would think “it is good for us to eat of this tree” which means they are already endowed knowledge of “good and bad.” that means “tree of good and bad” is symbolic of something.. since religious organizations interpret this differently, each reader has to adopt his own conclusion.
for me it looks like this: one thinks of good and bad in relation to himself—if something is beneficial for him he would say it is good for him, and bad for him if it is not beneficial.
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Kushner paid over 1 billion to WTBTS SO FAR
by nonjwspouse inin the past few years, kushner cos. and various investment partners have paid the watchtower more than $1 billion for property in brooklyn heights and dumbo.. and there's still more..... http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2017/5/31/first-look-kushner-cos-makeover-jehovahs-witnesses-headquarters.
yet the r&f can't seem to find the presence of logical mind to question where all that money is spent, when members are struggling financially and continuously asked for more, while being chastised for higher education and holding jobs that might interfere with pioneering.
ugh .
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smiddy
I do not contribute one more red cent than what's reasonable.
Same for KH contributions. I calculate # of publishers and monthly expenses, then contribute just enough to cover the bills if all pubs contributed the same amount.
I am gobsmacked by your admission doubtfully Yours.?
You have been on this site 14 years ? or theirabouts ? and you still give money/contributions to the Jehovahs Witness religion ?
I`m confused ,why would you do that ,do you believe they have the true religion ?
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do you believe they are a false ? cult religion misleading people.
Why i am confused is why you would be on this forum for 14 years yet still be financing the WTB&TS when this forum is all about exposing the Jehovahs Witness religion as a fraud /cult religion
How do you rationalise the two ?
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2017 International Regional Convention, Toronto – Entertainment at Sony Centre
by SAHS ini’ve been hearing from several very reliable sources that there will be an exclusive elite gala entertainment event hosted by the watch tower organization, featuring specially chosen jehovah’s witnesses of outstanding talent as well as spiritual reputation, at the sony centre (formerly called the o’keefe centre) in toronto, ontario (canada) as a special “after hours” addition to the 2017 special international convention.. those chosen have to meet very strict criteria, including, not so much technical and popular talents, but, rather, their spiritual maturity which can be easily and practically related to by the audience (i.e., degree of conformity – you know what i mean!).
a notable and very well-known professional “super star” from some other country (i don’t know which one) who has achieved highly recognized and popular talent was surprisingly not chosen to participate in the extra entertainment program, whereas other performers with rather ho-hum musical abilities ended up being selected, ostensibly for their altruistic and “theocratic” qualities.
(something tells me that there is going to be some jealousy and indignant, hard feelings over this rather authoritarian, arbitrary selection process.
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smiddy
The mind boggles
what more can one say
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Brussels Central station was evacuated Tuesday amid reports of an explosion and at least one man shot who shouted "Allahu Akbar,"
by freemindfade init looks like these attacks in europe are going from weekly, to daily, it literally gives me chills to think about traveling to europe with my family.
that is very unfortunate.
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Ruby456
I just dont understand where your coming from ,I dont condone terrorism in any form
.it comes from sustained reflection on hatred........ WTF does that even mean ?
Do you believe Muslims have a right to commit these atrcocities against civillians in the western world in the first place ?
None of the coalition of nations fighting the ISIS/Taliban scourge have ever gone out with the intention of targeting Muslim civillians and committing atrocities against them anywhere in the world and certainly not Islam/Muslim nations.
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Brussels Central station was evacuated Tuesday amid reports of an explosion and at least one man shot who shouted "Allahu Akbar,"
by freemindfade init looks like these attacks in europe are going from weekly, to daily, it literally gives me chills to think about traveling to europe with my family.
that is very unfortunate.
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smiddy
The more we see Muslim extremists carry out these attacks the more we are going to see a retalliation from people who are getting fed up with Muslim apologists denying it has anything to do with the Muslim/Islam religion. and are going for a tit for tat strategy.
You attack us ? on our home ground then we will attack you on your home ground.
Its not rocket science its just human nature.
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Bible on cassette
by road to nowhere inone thing that i questioned years ago was the release of bible reading so you could listen.
then when we finally got a tape it was in a thick german accent.
so much for getting the meaning of it..
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smiddy
Lets face it the Bible is written in double dutch anyway no matter what language its translated into.
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info needed on Mexico Scandal regarding KH's meetings with no prayers etc - Thanks.
by WHATSGOINGON inhi .
trying to find info on the scandal involving mexican congregations not having prayers and singing at the meetings.. i have found some info on jw facts but would like more if anyone knows of a good website to look at.. watchtower observer had some info before but that website is long gone.. any help would be much appreciated.. thanks wgo..
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Libby
The simple answer is they couldnt. religious organizations OTHER than the Catholic Church could not purchase land and build their house of worship on it and own it.
The Catholic religion was the official state religion and only they could own the land and building it was on .
Other religions could exist in Mexico but they could not own the land or property including JW`s.
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info needed on Mexico Scandal regarding KH's meetings with no prayers etc - Thanks.
by WHATSGOINGON inhi .
trying to find info on the scandal involving mexican congregations not having prayers and singing at the meetings.. i have found some info on jw facts but would like more if anyone knows of a good website to look at.. watchtower observer had some info before but that website is long gone.. any help would be much appreciated.. thanks wgo..
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smiddy
Then the organization had the audacity to say to the rest of the world of witnesses that they had gained religious freedom in Mexico when the Govt.allowed religions other than the Catholic Church to own the land their buildings were on.
As has been pointed out above religious freedom always existed for JW`s the only thing was that no religion other than the Catholic Church could own land that their places of worship was built on.
This didnt sit well for the GB of JW`s they wanted to own the land their buildings were on so they opted to renounce themselves as a religion and adopt a cultural stance.
Hence they then could no longer use the Bible ,sing Kingdom songs (hymns) or pray in their halls as it would mean they were a religion.and not a cultural centre.
And they put up with this hypocricy for many years.
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What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?
by mentalclarity inso i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.
i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.
some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.
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smiddy
When you have been in it for many many years investing much time and money and emotion ,its not easy to just cut yourself off cold turkey.
At first you dont want to believe it ,and then slowly it takes hold on you when you cant deny the facts.
It takes time to absorb the fact that you have been duped / conned for however long you have been in the religion.
It is not something you process in the short term ,it can take months and sometimes years to fully extricate yourself from such a belief and involvement.