Sue,
: 4/ I will go back
P.T. Barnum was right, then.
Farkel
ok, now i reveal the truth about sue.
1/ i am a woman.. 2/ i am german.
3/ i am disfellowshipped.
Sue,
: 4/ I will go back
P.T. Barnum was right, then.
Farkel
years ago, during the early 70's, conditions and morale.
at bethel got pretty bad - a sex ranting knorr,.
demanding overseers, stupid policies, and brothers.
apostate,
: I love your posts, but I hate to highlight, copy and paste you URL's into the address box of my web browser.
Would you also like free fries with that? Can I rake your yard, too? I'll bring the rake. Hell, I'll even bring the yard, if you don't have one!
You lazy whining wuss.
Farkel
years ago, during the early 70's, conditions and morale.
at bethel got pretty bad - a sex ranting knorr,.
demanding overseers, stupid policies, and brothers.
Metatron,
I must take this opportunity to mention that you and Dedalus are two of my favorite posters. I only say this because I don't think I've said it before and also because I don't think either of you get the action that your posts deserve.
In a nutshell, I'm a fan of yours and Deds. I'm sure there are many more like me. Kudus to you both and keep 'em comin' at us!
Farkel
carl was a quiet man.
he didn't talk much.
he would always greet you with a big smile and a firm handshake.
BearGuy,
I talked to a mutual friend of ours today and learned a little more about you. I think I understand you better now as a result of that. You could never really understand me though, because I'm a self-confessed jerk!
: ... we can all learn a lesson, if so inclined. Iam inclined, very inclined at the moment. Tired of all the negative, I enjoy being positive.
Sometimes we have to deal with the negative, since JW life is so full of it. In fact, negative actually defines JW life. When you find a way to always be positive when dealing with those negatives JWs swim and live in, please give me a shout and hand me a lot of lessons on how to deal with it, ok? :)
Farkel
if we take a critical view on the last weeks events on this board, there is maybe a thing or two to consider.
the board has seen a kind of war, and sarcasms and caustic remarks have been more the rule than the exception in some threads.
usually these ends up adding something positive to the community or the forum where the war raged, and its much like a thunderstorm.
LOL at your humor Larc!
: Who do you think will win the World Series this year?
Why the Knight in White Armor known as "Sir I Know I'm Right" will, you big dummy! :)
The dark and evil forces will lose the world series, and the white knights will shine and shine and shine; even if they don't, they'll say they do. Therefore, the World Series will be the de-facto victory for the white knights CLASS.
Isn't it grand to know that we are in such good hands and have allowed such talented people to do our thinking for us, Larc?
Farkel
Been Around the Block a Few Times Class
a significant number of former jehovah's witnesses come out of the watchtower still believing the bible and considering themselves christians.
most coming out are in a serious state of bewilderment, and they look intently and sincerely for something to fill the huge void of lost religion, lost family and friends, and lost fellowship.
they seek some viable spiritual association with others of like mind while at the same time having become very wary of any organized religion.. what is it that eventually draws so many of us (not me) to agnosticism or atheism?
spinner,
Good name. It fits.
: I used to be hurt that the God I worshipped could order the killing of entire cities, then, I read about early man, who ate their parents when they reached a certain age, and other horrible unclean practices.
Red herring. God is not man, and to compare what God does with what man does is to 1) Denigrate God and 2) Change the subject.
The issue is not what man does, but what the CREATOR of man does/did. Man is supposed to live up to God's standards. God is not supposed to live down to man's standards. Do you understand this, or shall I use visual aids?
: One person told me, mother rattlers raise baby rattlers. When you really care to know why God ordered such acts, you try to understand.
Your argument slumps further. NOW you are comparing God's acts with acts of stupid reptiles! It's bad enough to try to justify what God does because of what his highest human creation, Man does, but now you are trying to justify what God does because of one of his very LOWER creations the rattlesnakes do. Good grief!
: We can always search for something to stumble us.
Red herring. You sound like a dub. If facts "stumble" us then the claimed "truth" is crap. Should we feel bad if we are "stumbled" by FACTS? Yes, or no.
: If you are a parent, your children don't always know why you do what you do.
Your children would not be wrong in asking you as a parent why you frequently wiped out entire civilizations by your command, or once when you personally wiped out the entire planet by your will, and plan to do the same thing any time now, would they? I don't think that is an unfair question of a sentient child to ask of his parent, do you? Especially if that parent is God who is supposed to be full of Godlike mercy and forgiveness.
Besides that, if the child did not dare ask such a question, then that doesn't give one a lot of confidence in the fairness or honesty of the parent? Or is that parent or those morons who claim to represent him trying to hide pesky facts about him?
: How can we always feel we are capable of understanding the mind of God?
The Bible God is a cold-blooded, bloodthirsty, genocidal maniac. Those are facts for those who believe in the Bible to be a factual account about God in history. He has no problem with having little children hacked to death, with infants being held by their legs and having their little brains splattered against a wall, with having parents kill and eat their own children because he personally decided to bring a famine upon those poor hapless parents, with murdering the first-born of ALL children in a world empire because a Pharoah was a jerk, with having his "chosen" people take tens of thousands of little girls as sex-slaves from a culture they massacred (Lev. 31) and from other unspeakable atrocities the Bible talks about.
Yep, I'm "stumbled." The Bible did it. It wasn't another person who stumbled me. It wasn't demonism that stumbled me; it was the Bible in its raw and unvarnished gore that stumbled me. The Bible God is a monster and if you would actually READ the Bible you would understand why your argument falls flat on its face.
Farkel
if we take a critical view on the last weeks events on this board, there is maybe a thing or two to consider.
the board has seen a kind of war, and sarcasms and caustic remarks have been more the rule than the exception in some threads.
usually these ends up adding something positive to the community or the forum where the war raged, and its much like a thunderstorm.
:: Teejay, What's your problem, anyway?
: you lost me, Farkel.
Can't see the forest for the trees, eh? :)
Farkel
carl was a quiet man.
he didn't talk much.
he would always greet you with a big smile and a firm handshake.
teejay,
Good story. Probably apocraphal, but still a feel-good-warm-fuzzy story. Carl was the "White Knight" in the story and the gang members were the "Evil Fields" and "Dark Ones." Carl not only took the abuse, but he was Christ-like about it. He didn't crow, and he didn't pat himself on the back for showing his goodness. And he most certainly didn't vilify those boys. He just let the chips fall, and eventually he had his reward.
Yes teejay, there is a lot YOU can learn from your own story.
Farkel
Nice observations.
: Also degrading sex practices between married couples...
Did they happen to defined exactly what "degrading" is? Of course it MUST be something that is done when a married couple in the privacy of their own bedroom and with absolute mutual consent do and which also harms neither of them, but gives pleasure to one or both them. Well, SHAME on them, those married dummies! Married in the sight of God and given permission to engage in sex (actually it was an Edenic command). After a while of being married, most couples kind of get bored with the old "grunt, grunt, squirt, squirt" part and endeavor to spice things up a little bit to keep their love-life active. Well THOSE CRIMINALS! How DARE they do such a thing in the rule-driven world of WatchtowerLand? Isn't sex in all its various forms supposed to be FUN? God made it to be fun. Idiotic humans are trying to take away what God made it to be. Who ARE these people who think they can state crap like that as if God himself was speaking?
What sickens me most about such comments from those Brooklyn anal types is they did not precisely define "degrading sex practices" among hetero married couples Of course, they cannot, because the Bible doesn't do it. Yet they are a totally "Bible-based" religion. Or are they? As a result of using that general term, they will continue to wreck even more marriages. Wife says: "You can't touch me there. It's degrading. Just enter me and have your way, but if you take too long, it's degrading. And don't kiss my breasts, either. I think that is degrading. In fact, don't even kiss my lips, either. I think that is degrading." Husband says: "won't you even take off your bra, or let me turn the lights back on?" Wife says: "NO! That's degrading. Just do it to me."
Of course, the husband could also be the rabid dub who finds anything his healthy and frisky wife might imagine to also be degrading.
Those Brooklyn Arseholes are the most disgusting Pharisees imaginable. I spit on each and every one of them for manipulating and harming good people like that. They are screwing around with marital life and they have no right, Biblical or otherwise to do so. Those "suggestions" from this last District Assembly will destroy countless marriages. I will guarantee it.
Farkel
much less _accuse me_ of being "obnoxious"... or "antisocial"...?.
everything would be consistently phony and anonymous and invisible.. now, even overwrought i, can see the "obvious reason(ing)" behind that.. okay.
and i said to myself: "i am god!
Tom,
: The only one(s) I know of that should have that type of concern here on the DB, is "You Know", when he made those horrible comments about Farkel's Dad's illness, or was that "LurkerNoMore"... anyway
In all fairness to You Know, he has never sunk that low. It was LurkerNoMore who did that. You Know has a thousand times more class the LNM. That being said, you can easily figure out how much "class" LNM has.
I don't understand why you boys are fighting, either. You both are stuck in something and both want to be right at all costs. Is it worth it? You both know how much I (and others) care about each of you, and I'm not sure if this discussion is worth the energy it is taking. Is it, really?
Farkel