I think you should THANK them for shunning you. Every chance you get.
"Thank you all SO MUCH for so EASILY taking your sorry asses OUT of my life! Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!"
Lemons to lemonade and all that...
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23Punk got shunned HURRAH!!!!
by punkofnice inso i was da'd last september as a 'mentally diseased apostate'(tm) that the 'jehu elders'(tm) should 'slaughter'(tm) if the law of the land allows it.. i now get shunned in the street and i think it's so childish of the dubs to do so.
one family that shunned me was a family i bent over backwards to help them when they had to move house.
their loss...i won't help them again!.
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indications that the society having financial concerns
by outsmartthesystem inthey've cut back their number of branch locations from 217 to 198 in the past year.
they've installed credit card machines at assemblies and conventions.
they've cut back on the number of pages in the watchtower and awake magazines (from 32 to 16).
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:Please add to this list. I am trying to put together a list of indicators
A growing number of dubs just don't give a shit anymore. That is their WORST nightmare.
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What scripture bothered your concious?
by stillhurts ini have been out 3 years.
i was baptized, never df'd.
ignored the 2 or 3 phone calls from the elders, and then they left me alone.
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Revelation 21:3,4, the biggest fraud ever perpetuated on gullible cult book/magazine salesmen by an uncaring religious printing Corporation in the history of the modern world.
Even Adolf Hitler with his massive propaganda machine never dared offer that ridiculous and unrealistic hope to his masses of true believers.
"You will never die," they said. "Trust us." Then they died.
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King Solomon,
I knew King Solomon and you are no King Solomon.
You said, ridiculously:
:" According to Newton, every object in a state of motion tends to stay in that state of motion"
:"Therefore, every object in a state of motion tends to stay in that state of motion".
"The Watchtower Society said that Armageddon would happen in 1925."
"Therefore, Armageddon happened in 1925."
Appeal to authority has ALWAYS been a logical fallacy when that is the ONLY argument that is offered.
: You were taught classical or traditional (Aristotlean) logic, which has been replaced by a more pragmatic, real-world approach used in modern, abstract (symbolic) logic.
Traditional Coca Cola was replaced by a more pragmatic, real-world approach to colas called something like "New Coke". It bombed and died a violent death. Traditional Coca Cola was re-branded "Classic" coke. There is a reason for that. "Classic coke" worked. Classic Aristotolean logic works and it has always worked. Whomever is teaching you that crap doesn't have a clue about genuine, yes, "classical" logic. It transcends idiots who think they have found a better way (see above).
You wrote:
: That's all well and good, but what if the one of the premises ISN'T true, but merely appears to be true to a casual observer?
Well, of course, that often happens, perhaps more than not. However that has nothing to do with logic. A premise (as I said) MUST be assumed to be true in any argument to determine whether it is logical or not. In case you didn't bother to read what I wrote (you didn't) I said all premises in a syllogism AND the conclusion can be true and the argument is therefore logical, but it might not be a SOUND argument. I even gave an example. At least look at what I wrote before you start blathering
Aristotle got it right. Whoever is filling your mind with nonsense is doing you a disservice.
The rest of your post is gibberish and unworthy of comment.
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Why get "personal" when discussing a topic?
by Terry intrading insults happens among kids all the time.. intellectual development hasn't progressed to the point where they can present contrary ideas and opinions with persuasive appeal to reasons, facts and logic.. "i know you are; but what am i?".
"your momma's so fat....".
so, they fall back on childish mocking, provocation and personal attack.. as we grow older and have more education and sophistication our minds should mature---or so you'd think!.
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What a bunch of piss-ant cry babies. I've been called worse names by better people than this; and smarter people, too.
Quit whining and no one will call you on it.
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Why get "personal" when discussing a topic?
by Terry intrading insults happens among kids all the time.. intellectual development hasn't progressed to the point where they can present contrary ideas and opinions with persuasive appeal to reasons, facts and logic.. "i know you are; but what am i?".
"your momma's so fat....".
so, they fall back on childish mocking, provocation and personal attack.. as we grow older and have more education and sophistication our minds should mature---or so you'd think!.
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still thinking,
: Well...there you go...one persons constructive comment is another persons unbelievably horrible. I'm guessing that how people perceived your thread.
Neither sentence is really a sentence. Keep thinking.
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Pascal's Wager, Best Answer I Have Heard
by Diest inmany of us have heard of pascal's wager.
basically that you can bet on god and receive an infinite reward, or you can bet against him and live an easier life for 80 years.
this guy proves that the wager is really misstated.. .
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Terry,
: I know what DEIST means.
:What does DIEST mean?
A typo when he signed up here. An honest mistake. He is a deist.
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King Solomon,
: The thing to remember is these are potential fallacies, eg a statement may be made using an 'appeal to authority' but that's not proof that it IS false.
That's not the point. They are still logical fallacies. There are many logical fallacies that end up being true. In fact, one can have two assertions that are true, and the conclusion that necessarily derives from those assertions are also true, but the logic is a fallacy.
Logic is a way to argue ideas and is a foundation of scientific thought. For logic to work properly, one MUST assume the premises are true and the conclusion MUST be the only thing that can result from the premises. If the conclusion DOES result from the premises, the argument is logical. If the premises are false and the conclusion results from them, the argument is still logical, but it is not sound.
Example: (remember you must assume the assertions are true)
All animals have feet.
Worms are animals.
Therefore, worms have feet.
This is a logical argument, but not a sound argument, because everyone knows worms have no feet, only wings.
Once a logical argument can be made, it must be tested for validity. This is how science works. The WTS has made a zillion arguments/claims, but never has tested them for validity. That is why they print shit.
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Why get "personal" when discussing a topic?
by Terry intrading insults happens among kids all the time.. intellectual development hasn't progressed to the point where they can present contrary ideas and opinions with persuasive appeal to reasons, facts and logic.. "i know you are; but what am i?".
"your momma's so fat....".
so, they fall back on childish mocking, provocation and personal attack.. as we grow older and have more education and sophistication our minds should mature---or so you'd think!.
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broken promises,
: I knew you couldn't help yourself in proving my words true. Instead of discussing things like a mature adult, you resorted to attacks. You don't have the intellectual capacity to engage in mature discussion. You're still a nerdy 15 year old, unable to talk to the pretty girls on the other side of the Kingdom Hall.
:I pity you.
Like I've said, morons and twits resort to ad hominems. They don't have any actual arguments and in your case, you drew first blood. But in this case, I won't retaliate. I'm a nerd who is unable to talk to pretty girls, right? So I will just waddle down somewhere and find some ugly fat and stupid girls to talk with. Since I don't "discuss things" like a mature adult and as someone who does not "have the intellectual capacity fo engage in mature discussion", I guess that leaves the ugly fat and stupid girls for me to talk with.
I bow to you, your worshipfulness. Now, would you be so kind as to post the major highlights of the body of work you've posted here that shows you are "mature" and "intellectual" since I'm so stupid? I need to learn from you and your vast experience and contributions. Be sure and show your skinny pictures and pretty pictures because I could never walk across the Hall and talk to anyone as worshipful as you. I will just look at them, be nerdy and drool.
By the way, comma, "pity" is the most evil feeling there is. It is not just condescending, it is self-glorifying. I'm happified to know you are so superior to those you feel that way about. Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back and glorifying yourself. It is most unbecoming
Farkel, Intellectual moron CLASS
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Why get "personal" when discussing a topic?
by Terry intrading insults happens among kids all the time.. intellectual development hasn't progressed to the point where they can present contrary ideas and opinions with persuasive appeal to reasons, facts and logic.. "i know you are; but what am i?".
"your momma's so fat....".
so, they fall back on childish mocking, provocation and personal attack.. as we grow older and have more education and sophistication our minds should mature---or so you'd think!.
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: What/who is defined as a "newbi?"
Oh, someone who cannot spell it would be a good guess.
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