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  Is it wrong to burn people to death?

  by DoomVoyager in

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  i'm an avid reader of steve wells' blog on religion and atheism.

  this article discusses the hebrew god (we all know him as joe hoobie) and his propensity for burning people to death.

  http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2008/06/is-it-wrong-to-burn-people-to-death.html .

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  lrkr

  But what if its cold out???

  Or what if you need some more light??
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  Adam and Eve, True or False

  by RavenManiac in

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  do you believe the story of adam and eve?

  why or why not?

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  Of all the quaint little "beginning of the universe stories" in all the cultures on the planet- this Jewish one just happened to be picked up by the Roman Empire and distributed (via sword and burning at the stake) to most of Western Civilization. Now, when polled, most Americans will tell you that it really happened.

  Who said that the Roman Empire wasn't powerful???

  Who said that civilization has really advanced???
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  PROOF OF RUSSELL INVOLVED WITH MASONS/ILUMINATI

  by whereami in

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  thought this was very interesting comming from a person that has no reason to want to lie about russell.

  you be the jugde.

  listen at 1:50 min.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sttj8brmchm&feature=related.

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  PS- No cross and crown arguments, no pyramid arguments, please, I don't think they prove anything.

  Reptilian bloodline- I think not.

  A bunch of guys with delusions of grandeur who tried to influence world events to their own profit- sounds reasonable- I see stuff like that every time I go to a bar- usually it never makes it past the bar napkin, though.
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  PROOF OF RUSSELL INVOLVED WITH MASONS/ILUMINATI

  by whereami in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  thought this was very interesting comming from a person that has no reason to want to lie about russell.

  you be the jugde.

  listen at 1:50 min.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sttj8brmchm&feature=related.

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  Sorry, I watched this time and my curiosity got the best of me. Who is this guy Icke? Whats up with his off hand remark about the "Russell foundation" running drugs into China during the Opium wars? He said those things like...well, as everbody knows....

  Has anyone with any serious cred. ever said anything about that??
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  2008 Keep Yourselves In God's Love--PDF!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2008 keep yourselves in god's love--pdf!

  bookmarked searchable reduced to 2.4-mb from (anonymous-5) please note the "appendix" of this book!

  click the link at the bottom of the next page.

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  When I heard about this book, it sounded like another Talmud of rules and regulations. It is, but it is also a remarkable work of indoctrination propaganda.

  Birthdays are the favorite days of Satanists!! Who knew??? Turns out, Birthdays are also the favorite days of baseball players, and zookeepers, and kindergartners, and politicians, and journalists, and graduate students, and well- just about everyone except those who have been indoctrinated since they were 2 years old to believe that they are Satanic!!!
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  "fade" Is this term or other "apostate" vocab being used in talks by JW's?

  by Thechickennest in

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  i am picking up a whole new set of terms, abreviations, etc.

  from this forum.

  with the number of increasing active jw's veiwing and using this forum i was wondering if this new language is making its way back into talks, meeting parts, preaching work or other areas in the social lives of current jw's?.

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  As soon as they start using the words "indoctrinated" "brainwashed" or "dub" I'll know they have been lurking here.
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  I Really, Really Want a Baby...

  by cognac in

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  i have since as far back as i can remember.

  i don't really think the jw thing will be an issue anymore.... ok, so what do you think?.

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  Cognac,

  Having a child is one of the most rewarding and most natural pleasures that we can have. (Not "making" the child, but raising the child) My kid changed my life forever- he was one of the best things that ever happened to me. There may be a lot of JW propaganda still floating around in your head about the loss of freedom, "problems", etc. I say that all of that is fear-mongering from the childless writers in Brooklyn.

  It makes sense to plan appropriately to bring the child into the most supportive, healthy environment you can. (You have to figure out what that means for yourself.) But don't deny yourself this basic right because your circumstances aren't perfect.

  Lrkr
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  How did your young children cope when you left?

  by boyzone in

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  i have an 8 year old son who's in primary school.

  he has to pass 3 sisters and their kids most mornings and they shun me, so therefore they shun him too as he's with me.

  he has known these people since birth so he's pretty confused by this.

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  This is an important thread, I think.

  My son is 9 and we have been doing the fade since his 8th birthday. Its amazing what he says when he realizes that there are no longer any boundaries on belief. He continually says things like- "maybe there isn't a God. There isn't really any proof." Anyone who says "Children naturally believe in God" have never spoken with children in an honest and open manner. (Ok - that was a pretty broad generalization- I expect some flaming for that) Children have a natural logic that simply can't accept much of what is taught in the Bible (especially the OT).

  He has made comments like "We really dont do our religion anymore." To which I say-"No, we don't. Sometimes its important to rethink what you've always believed to be true."

  To me, its important that he know that there may not be any fixed, unquestionable religious truths and that life is a journey of discovery. I'm trying to balance that with giving him a set of moral boundaries (stealing, hurting others, hurting yourself is wrong) but I find that children do have a bit of a natural compass when it comes to basic moral issues. (They just have no natural moral compass regarding stories of brutality in the OT, senseless doctrines like blood, and other artificially imposed religious "morality")
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  Violations of privacy re: postal mail by JWs

  by Dogpatch in

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  2. friends

  i have been sending out orders of books to jws, ex-jws and others for over 25 years.

  sometimes plain wrap to keep the family's noses out of it.

  over the years i have seen the same constant pattern: whenever the questioning jw lives with or near family members who are currently jws, they want to break open the mail to see what others are ordering!!

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  I know of witnesses who work for Barnes and Noble.com and Amazon.com. One got my number off an order and called me up. That was a few years ago (before I ordered "apostate literature.")

  I suppose if they called me on it today, I'd recommend that they read the book before they make any judgements.

  Fortunately, when I ordered from Randy- my wife was as curious to see the books as I was.
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  Kid's playing sports?

  by ldrnomo in

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  anyone keep their kids from playing sports because of the borg?.

  when my son was 8 years old they had a t-ball league in the summer at the nearby park.

  because of the borg training we told him he couldn't play t-ball.. that kind of thinking just carried on throughout his life from junior high through high school.

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  lrkr

  I never played sports as a 'raised in'. So now I over compensate and enroll my kid in everything. (Im living vicariously through him)