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  Just finished our District Convention

  by BonaFide in

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  i know i am going to get caught being on here...and i don't want to get caught, but i need support or i will lose my mind.

  how can i give information about my convention without someone figuring out who i am?

  (i am not important i know that, but i know so many people in the organization) .

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  BonaFide-

  Your feelings remind me of my own. A few months ago, I went back to meeting to see friends and while they were singing I had a feeling of complete isolation. They were singing words that I had sung hundreds, maybe thousands of times, but this time, I was reading the words first. And the words to the songs are (besides being rythmically and melodically atrocious) judgemental, rejoicing in destruction, narrow minded, and focused on giving glory to the organization. I was so digusted that I could not sing. I felt like a man who could see at a convention of the blind (no offense to the visually impaired). In a world where I had been at the center, I all at once felt like a stranger. But I kept up appearances.

  The control mechanisms of the Borg are no trifle.

  Keep looking and you will find.

  Lrkr.
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  What was your first taste of "apostasy"? Mine was Bonham, Texas

  by donny in

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  besides the folks walking with signs at each convention, what was your first taste of "apostasy"?

  my first interesting experience happened within the kingdom hall.

  my congregation in dallas (farmers branch) was in the same district as the bonham congregation which was about 70 miles northeast of dallas.. http://governingbodyletters.blogspot.com/2008/04/who-owns-kingdom-halls.html.

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  Its absolutely amazing that a "suspected" apostate was allowed to give talks in neighboring congregations. Are any of those elders on this board?? Have their stories ever been told here?? I heard about this case at Bethel, but I always wanted to hear the "rest of the story"
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  What was wrong with the 'occultic green' bibles?

  by Gill in

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  2. bible

  what was wrong with the 'green bible'?.

  i understand (rightly or wrongly) that the 'green' had occult connotations that some did not approve of.. is this true and were the early jws too involved with hidden, esoteric, occult meaning that 'others' found uncomfortable and so they had to go to the sobre black bibles?.

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  Knorr felt that green was the color of life. Green bible. Green walls in the factory. Green windows (frames) on all of the factory buildings. Green logo on some of the letterhead.
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  Disfellowshipped for Beavis and Butthead

  by donny in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a friend (who no longer attends meetings) told me about an incident about seven years ago in north carline involving one of her male friends.

  this friend has ceased believing the society's diatribe for some time and was only staying in it in order to associate with friends and family.

  he had visited a friend in a town about 30 miles away and heard a sunday talk from one of that congregations elders.

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  I'd love to know the scriptural basis for that disfellowshipping- "Fornicators, idolators and bevis and butthead will not inherit Gods Kingdom."????
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  7 Kinds of Sex......

  by Hope4Others in

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  results of a recent research shows that there are 7 kinds of sex:.

  the 1st kind of sex is called: smurf sex.. * this kind of sex happens when you first meet.

  someone and you both have sex until you are.

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  Well- you know what they say- if you keep a jar by the bed and put a penny in the jar every time you have sex before you get married and then take a penny out every time you have sex after you get married- the jar will never go empty!!!
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  2008 Young People Ask Vol 2 (YPA V2) PDF, searchable, bookmarked

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've got the book, starting the scan now!!

  will have it online in a bit.

  i have a manual (not sheetfed) scanner, so it's a manual process.

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  Oh, and I forgot one- Simplicity. Everything that a young person faces will be simple- able to be solved with, what 16 font on two small pages- about 75 words at most. Name the issue- anorexia, drug abuse, teen pregnancy, parental abuse- all simple issues solved with simple statements. "Just forgive him." "You may be taking this too seriously" etc, etc.
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  2008 Young People Ask Vol 2 (YPA V2) PDF, searchable, bookmarked

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i've got the book, starting the scan now!!

  will have it online in a bit.

  i have a manual (not sheetfed) scanner, so it's a manual process.

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  I know that the consensus feeling is disgust. But I am really sad for all of the teenagers who will swallow this hook, line and sinker. While the "creative thinking" department at Bethel is reduced to .5 people, the propaganda department must have well over 1000 people. Every kid with a media studies associates degree (bachelors degrees are from the Debil) is coming up with better ways to sell the same ole, same ole.

  Slick packaging. 21st century, MTV graphics. 1950s morality. Prehistoric values.

  Sad.
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  Tablet Ignites Debate on Messiah and Resurrection

  by tsar_robles in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/world/middleeast/06stone.html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

  july 6, 2008 tablet ignites debate on messiah and resurrection by ethan bronner jerusalem a three-foot-tall tablet with 87 lines of hebrew that scholars believe dates from the decades just before the birth of jesus is causing a quiet stir in biblical and archaeological circles, especially because it may speak of a messiah who will rise from the dead after three days.

  if such a messianic description really is there, it will contribute to a developing re-evaluation of both popular and scholarly views of jesus, since it suggests that the story of his death and resurrection was not unique but part of a recognized jewish tradition at the time.

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  Classic biblical archeology.

  Fundamentalists (including JWs) will jump up and down saying that there is now proof that the biblical timelines were correct and that Jews were expecting a messiah and here is more proof that Jesus is the promised one.

  The rest of the world will say- "Oh- so being resurrected in 3 days was a typical thing in 1st century religion- so the gospel writers needed to include that reference in order to give the story legitimacy."

  Meanwhile- all we really have is a rock with a smudged phrase on it.
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  4th of July- Not just "America's Birthday"

  by lrkr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in my new way looking at things without the borg filter i am extremely impressed by the events of july 4, 1776. .

  this was the culmination of a movement that changed the way the world viewed government.

  government was no longer a grant by god to the king- but a right granted by the people being governed.

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  In my new way looking at things without the Borg filter I am extremely impressed by the events of July 4, 1776.

  This was the culmination of a movement that changed the way the world viewed government. Government was no longer a grant by God to the King- but a right granted by the people being governed. With that declaration- countries around the world started taking back power from their "divinly appointed" kings.

  On top of that- a group of citizen, philosophers somehow figured out a way to govern and pass power without killing each other (even though Democrats and Republicans would still like to kill each other some times.)

  The 4th of July is an important day for every citizen of the world- it marked a new day- a revolution in the way people thought about government.

  That said- I am sick of hearing about the 4th as a reason to honor troops, sell cars, proove your patriotism (compared to your political opponent).

  (I will grill some meat and watch fireworks- though!!)

  Happy Independence Day!!!
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  WTBS to discontinue charging interest on all future loans!

  by tsar_robles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they just read this letter last night, where the fds stated that they will no longer charge interest on contribution money they lend back to congregations as loans...

  i guess they realized they were double dipping... lol

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  Can we get a scan of the letter???