Welcome. You'll find that waking up is a continuing process. After 8 years I still discover residual beliefs, habits, and world views in myself that are clearly cult originated.
Enjoy your new found intellectual freedom. Stay curious.
Posts by lrkr
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60New Here ... Just woke up
by Sevan inhey all, .
this is my first post.
i haven't been out in service or to a meeting in over a month.. i realize now that i've been having serious questions for years and many articles and talks have greatly disturbed me over the years.
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WT books- will ship
by lrkr inso i'm cleaning out the attic and i have boxes of wt books.
all of the 90's new systemy books, the 60s and 70s prophecy books, some of the 40s and 50s rainbow books, and bound volumes from about 1975-1995.. i am happy to ship them to anyone that wants them.
2 caveats- you pay shipping, and i'm not digging through them to find anything.
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lrkr
Yes to both I believe.
Should say- I'm in the lower Hudson Valley of New York.
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WT books- will ship
by lrkr inso i'm cleaning out the attic and i have boxes of wt books.
all of the 90's new systemy books, the 60s and 70s prophecy books, some of the 40s and 50s rainbow books, and bound volumes from about 1975-1995.. i am happy to ship them to anyone that wants them.
2 caveats- you pay shipping, and i'm not digging through them to find anything.
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lrkr
So I'm cleaning out the attic and I have boxes of WT books. All of the 90's new systemy books, the 60s and 70s prophecy books, some of the 40s and 50s rainbow books, and bound volumes from about 1975-1995.
I am happy to ship them to anyone that wants them. 2 caveats- you pay shipping, and I'm not digging through them to find anything. If anyone is interested PM me. If not, I'll recycle.
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The last video in the 2016 convention...
by problemaddict 2 in...is an epic triumph is emotional manipulation.
bringing together all of the stories they told thus far and placing them int he "new world" complete with the little boy who was killed in a car accident coming back from the dead.. i have a good friend who is stuck in with family and plays the role.
he said everyone was crying, and the people next to him rated the videos by how many tissues they needed to dry their eyes.
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lrkr
Totally disgusting.
I wonder if they paid royalties to use that music.....
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Church of Christ, Scientist
by lrkr inwe were in boston this weekend and stayed at a hotel in the back bay, close to the hq of the church of christ, scientist.
these guys have an impressive cathedral and an hq setup that includes a "library for the betterment of mankind" as well as a walk in globe that represents the scope of their religion.
they have similar origins to jws- 19th century mysticism mixed with literal reading of the bible, heavy central control and "democratic" church structures.. but, for some reason, they really annoyed me.
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lrkr
One source I read attributed the proliferation of spiritualists, monster books and general obsession with the occult of the 1800s to environmental contaminants: mercury in the manufacture of hats, gas and combustion byproducts from gas lamps, and general industrial revolution pollution.
And that's the Genesis of our favorite cult!
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Church of Christ, Scientist
by lrkr inwe were in boston this weekend and stayed at a hotel in the back bay, close to the hq of the church of christ, scientist.
these guys have an impressive cathedral and an hq setup that includes a "library for the betterment of mankind" as well as a walk in globe that represents the scope of their religion.
they have similar origins to jws- 19th century mysticism mixed with literal reading of the bible, heavy central control and "democratic" church structures.. but, for some reason, they really annoyed me.
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lrkr
Concert venue would be great!
Condos just seem to be the most profitable use of land these days for developers.
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Church of Christ, Scientist
by lrkr inwe were in boston this weekend and stayed at a hotel in the back bay, close to the hq of the church of christ, scientist.
these guys have an impressive cathedral and an hq setup that includes a "library for the betterment of mankind" as well as a walk in globe that represents the scope of their religion.
they have similar origins to jws- 19th century mysticism mixed with literal reading of the bible, heavy central control and "democratic" church structures.. but, for some reason, they really annoyed me.
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lrkr
We were in Boston this weekend and stayed at a hotel in the Back Bay, close to the HQ of the Church of Christ, Scientist. These guys have an impressive cathedral and an HQ setup that includes a "library for the betterment of mankind" as well as a walk in globe that represents the scope of their religion.
They have similar origins to JWs- 19th century mysticism mixed with literal reading of the bible, heavy central control and "democratic" church structures.
But, for some reason, they really annoyed me. This cult doesn't just kill people by making them reject blood transfusions...they reject modern medicine altogether. And their buildings show the impact of an enlightened populous on a mystic 19th century religion.
There are only 80,000 of them left. Growth is mostly in Africa. The buildings and grounds are mostly populated by student musicians attending the nearby Berkley College of Music. The dilapadation of their HQ has started. Within 20 years some developer will buy it all and turn it into condos.
I wonder how long it will take for a similar fate to befall JWs?
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JW anti-gay children movie viral in Netherlands national media + official reaction of JW spokesman Branch office
by Gorbatchov invarious dutch (netherlands) media mentioned the anti-gay children movie on jw.org,.
and gay, lesbian, transgender and bisexual organizations are shocked, and some gay people.
are reporting the movie to the local police.. the official spokesman of the dutch branch office in emmen declared that the movie is.
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lrkr
This whole issue speaks to how far society has come on acceptance of LGBT relationships. 10 years ago, if a fundamentalist church put up an anti gay video, no one would have cared. Watchtower, being as usual, entirely tone deaf, didn't catch that it is entirely unacceptable and bigoted now.
Just like if your religious belief is that white people and black people shouldn't marry- that may have been considered a private issue 50 years ago. Now it's just considered racism. No matter what color of religious bow you put on it.
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The JW FUNERAL experience
by Terry inmy best buddy is gone.
i attended his funeral this morning.. on thursday evening, i went to the body "viewing" and it was "family only.
" i am part of the family (through marriage) so, i was there.. i was welcomed with joy and enthusiasm like a long lost (prodigal) sheep.
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lrkr
Terry, your remembrance here was eloquent, poignant and poetic. Absolutely beautiful in its raw truth. So sorry for your loss. -
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Dan Sydlik
by done4good inmorning warship - he was the only restraint and i'm not saying that lightly.
i know there are a dozen others here who were in bethel back in the early 2000's who know what i'm talking about.
he actually kept me thinking this was jehovah's org because of his sincerity as if the holy spirit was operating in him.
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lrkr
I also personally thought of Dan Sydlick as a very interesting warm individual. But then I read Ray Franz book. In it he describes an incident where Sydlick was sitting on the committee that disfellowshipped Dunlap. He was quoted as saying to Dunlap "We're not here to answer your Bible questions" in an arrogant condescending manner. That changed my whole view of him.