I like the way they put it in My Big Fat Greek Wedding: The man is the head and the woman is the neck. The man thinks he is making all the decisions of the family but it's the neck who turns the head.
GoddessRachel
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The Word of the Day is Inculcate
by GoddessRachel ini have a word of the day emailed to me and this one brought back memories.
this is one of the words i used to tally in my notebook at assemblies and meetings to count how many times they used it in a talk (and to pass the time):.
word of the day for tuesday, january 15, 2008inculcate \in-kuhl-kayt; in-kuhl-kayt\, transitive verb:.
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How Would a JW Answer This Question? Opinions, Please.
by GoddessRachel ini was thinking to myself this morning and came up with this question:.
if jehovah god is so merciful, why would he punish his people because of apostates?.
my thought process was that the end hasn't come because it is some kind of a test to see how faithful his people can be.
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GoddessRachel
I was thinking to myself this morning and came up with this question:
If Jehovah God is so merciful, why would He punish his people because of apostates?
My thought process was that the end hasn't come because it is some kind of a test to see how faithful his people can be. But how is that loving or merciful? And why would he continue to test people like my family, who is hurting because so many of their children and their friends' children are "leaving the truth." If it was actually real, why wouldn't Jehovah just save his broken people?
I guess I think the JW's feel like the broken shells of people that they are is somehow proof of being persecuted by Satan. I think it's proof that it's all a farce.
What do you think?
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The Word of the Day is Inculcate
by GoddessRachel ini have a word of the day emailed to me and this one brought back memories.
this is one of the words i used to tally in my notebook at assemblies and meetings to count how many times they used it in a talk (and to pass the time):.
word of the day for tuesday, january 15, 2008inculcate \in-kuhl-kayt; in-kuhl-kayt\, transitive verb:.
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GoddessRachel
I don't remember ever hearing "redound," Hortensia. Maybe that was just in your area? But yes, it's the same concept, a single word slaughtered by the WTS! How tragic!
Good observation, NeonMadman. I noticed that with me personally. When I opened my email and saw the word "inculcate," I had this weird gut reaction to it. And like I said before I know it was one of my tally words because they used to overuse it during the assembly talks. It really was the word of the day at the assemblies!!
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JW IQ's. Below average? (Includes SM anecdote.)
by Open mind inare dub bulbs just a little dimmer than the general population?
here's a little highlight from this week's local service meeting that prompts my question.. it's the annual, 20 minute, robotic hand-pumping session conducted by the secretary trying to get everyone all hyped/guilted up for this summer's district convention.
anyway, towards the end of the q&a, there's a paragraph that talks about offering a ride to the elderly/infirm ones in your congo.
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GoddessRachel
OK I'll try again.
Dawg said:
Think of this Abandoned.... they go out in service, to meetings, shun kids, you know the drilll... and they're lying to themselves? THey are living a lie?
Some must simply be too damn dumb to see reality... it must be true of some of them
On the surface, the "truth" seems perfect. It's not stupid to want to believe in good things for yourself and your loved ones! It's natural!
I think people, like my family, hold on to the "truth" because they just want it to be true so badly, they NEED it to be true, and so they see the world through filters created by the WTS. They see something or hear something, and instead of being objective about what it is they hear or see, they first apply their "knowledge" to what was really seen or heard. Like the poster who wrote about a JW insisting Judas did NOT partake before leaving the supper the night of Jesus' death, the JW insists this, not because he is stupid, but because the "Faithful and Discreet Slave" who would never steer him wrong, told him this is true, so therefore he knows it is true, and thus must back up that "truth" with the scripture he sees, instead of the way it should be which is to allow the scripture to tell him what the event really was and then base his truth off that.
Why did we wake up from it, Dawg? I have one theory based on my own experience: I got burned. Repeatedly. I was not a privileged elder's child immune to disfellowshipping consequences. I did the best I could and it was not good enough. And when I needed the congregation the most they turned their backs on me (I was not disfellowshipped when this happened; I was in "good standing"). I was also lucky to have a friend who left before me (though I didn't know at the time that he didn't attend meetings) who saw the signs and reached out to me with little snippets of real truth. Slowly I started to grasp reality.
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JW IQ's. Below average? (Includes SM anecdote.)
by Open mind inare dub bulbs just a little dimmer than the general population?
here's a little highlight from this week's local service meeting that prompts my question.. it's the annual, 20 minute, robotic hand-pumping session conducted by the secretary trying to get everyone all hyped/guilted up for this summer's district convention.
anyway, towards the end of the q&a, there's a paragraph that talks about offering a ride to the elderly/infirm ones in your congo.
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GoddessRachel
Edited to add: YAY! It worked!
Awakened said:
JWs are not stupid on average, I think. You can be really intelligent and think a lot, but when you're limited to think only within a certain narrow field of what you've been told, you won't be able to use your intelligence to view things objectively. You may hear things that go against what you've been taught, but you feel you have the backing of all the various things you've been taught before, so you opt to believe that whatever doesn't agree with what you believe, must be false. This at least can be true for those who were born in.
This really got me thinking about the filters JW's use. I read in a book recently that we all see the world through our filters, our preconceived ideas about ourselves (example: I believe I'm stupid so that is why I don't have friends, when the truth could really be that I don't have friends because I don't reach out to meet people, or don't respond to invitations to do things).
This could certainly apply to JW's as well. They are taught the "truth" and it is WONDERFUL! And then they are conditioned to follow the "FDS" and do what they are told to be able to enjoy the prize of paradise forever! And then when they learn things that contradict their truth, they first apply their filter and then reason out why it is really this or that, instead of what might be obvious to someone who is able to be objective.
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JW IQ's. Below average? (Includes SM anecdote.)
by Open mind inare dub bulbs just a little dimmer than the general population?
here's a little highlight from this week's local service meeting that prompts my question.. it's the annual, 20 minute, robotic hand-pumping session conducted by the secretary trying to get everyone all hyped/guilted up for this summer's district convention.
anyway, towards the end of the q&a, there's a paragraph that talks about offering a ride to the elderly/infirm ones in your congo.
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GoddessRachel
Why can't I post on this thread anymore? I still have more to say.
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JW IQ's. Below average? (Includes SM anecdote.)
by Open mind inare dub bulbs just a little dimmer than the general population?
here's a little highlight from this week's local service meeting that prompts my question.. it's the annual, 20 minute, robotic hand-pumping session conducted by the secretary trying to get everyone all hyped/guilted up for this summer's district convention.
anyway, towards the end of the q&a, there's a paragraph that talks about offering a ride to the elderly/infirm ones in your congo.
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GoddessRachel
Haven't read the rest of the thread comments yet, but my initial nagging question back to you, Open Mind, is how do you know that everyone else in that room isn't screaming inside their head "OH MY GOD, ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!??"
I mean, many JW's go through the motions, give them (the powers that be, i.e. the elders or whomever) what they want, just get it over with, knowing they will get targeted less if they just do what they are told and mind their own business (don't they even have a scripture to back up that 'mind your own business' bit?) and just get through this terrible old system full of persecution until Jehovah murders everyone who is evil and abysses Satan or whatever the hell the plan is...
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Hello people!!!
by Superslave inim fairly new to this site & just wanted to make my presence known.
ive been away from the borg for nearly a year now (whoo hoo) without anyone noticing (so much for that brotherly luuuuuuurrvvve) been reading some of the posts & wow.
some stuff i already knew about, but a lot i did not.. was wondering how many of you are from the uk?
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GoddessRachel
The more exotic the avatar local, the closer to New Jersey.
LOL, nice one, jaguarbass!
Welcome, Superslave, I'm not from the UK, but I am glad you are here!
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I'm scared everyday...
by 4mylove ini'm scared everyday that i will lose my husband to this cult.. i'm scared everyday that i will offend my dear friend because of my bitterness with this cult.. i'm scared everyday that my husband will choose to go back to studying and become active again.. i'm scared everyday that my life will crumble after working so hard to build the wonderful relationship that i have.. i'm scared everyday that his family will eventually say that they cannot associate with him anymore unless he goes back.. i'm scared everyday he'll choose.
i'm scared everyday that i'll never have a family of my own because of this stupid cult.
i won't bring innocent lives into this shit.. i'm scared everyday that i'll give up.. i'm scared evertday that he'll be gone.. i'm scared they will convince him.
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GoddessRachel
(((((4mylove)))))
Like babygirl says, I'm with her: she says it perfectly. Though we know how you feel!
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The Word of the Day is Inculcate
by GoddessRachel ini have a word of the day emailed to me and this one brought back memories.
this is one of the words i used to tally in my notebook at assemblies and meetings to count how many times they used it in a talk (and to pass the time):.
word of the day for tuesday, january 15, 2008inculcate \in-kuhl-kayt; in-kuhl-kayt\, transitive verb:.
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GoddessRachel
Who would have thought one little word could bring back so many memories? Especially since the word itself is not evil.
I know, Unique1, that's the same reaction I know I had. Involuntary shudders, and like WTWizard brought out, the word itself can be a good thing, just not in the way the WTS uses it.