Posts by GoddessRachel

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Another reason for leaving.

by crapola in

jw
friends

i've been trying to think of a reason to stay with the wt org.

can't think of one,but can think of many reasons why ineed to leave.

first of all, a few years ago when i thought the bros. were god, i tried to help my daughter who was having kindof a hard time.

Thanks, Real One. I just know how it feels to be in her place, am still there to a point, it seems, I think those of us who have/had lots to lose by walking away from the WTS will always feel torn and tormented to a point, but it doesn't mean leaving is the wrong choice. A good friend said to me today that we have to do what is best for us personally, but the best choice isn't always the easiest choice. I think that is very good advice.

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Your Pretend Shrink is Back - Share Your Problems - I'll Help if I Can

by flipper in

jw
friends

well it's been about 2 to 3 months since i did a thread like this , so how have you all been doing in life?

relax , pull up a chair and your favorite cocktail , and tell me your problems - or at least how life is treating you.

we can make this a humorous thread or it can be serious , it's up to you.

GoddessRachel

Now, now my friends , don't be hasty in assuming things. I was cooking dinner for my beloved wife on the grill- all the while taking time in answering your questions , very carefully ! Hope you like the answers ! Let me know ! Peace out, Mr. Flipper

Sorry, Mr. Flipper, I put some very personal things out on the world wide web and then felt vulnerable about it. My fault not yours. Thanks so much for your most excellent advice.

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Another reason for leaving.

by crapola in

jw
friends

i've been trying to think of a reason to stay with the wt org.

can't think of one,but can think of many reasons why ineed to leave.

first of all, a few years ago when i thought the bros. were god, i tried to help my daughter who was having kindof a hard time.

GoddessRachel

I think you did the absolute best thing to go with your daughter. Your daughter didn't make you choose, your fake friends did. And you chose correctly. I know how hard all of this is. It hurts so badly to know that your friendships are all based on the conditions of the WTS.

Sorry you are going through this. Do what you have to do to get out, as you mentioned you have tried to make a list of reasons why you should stay, and can't even come up with one thing, but your list of reasons why you should leave is growing. That means something. Stay here, and keep reading and posting, you will learn a lot. Read the Best of Section and learn the pros and cons of fading versus disassociating. I faded. It allows me to still talk to my JW parents from time to time. The rest of my JW friends are gone, but it's my parents I care the most about.

Also, if you haven't done so already, read Crisis of Conscience by Raymond Franz. It will change your life.

PEACE,

Rachel

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Your Pretend Shrink is Back - Share Your Problems - I'll Help if I Can

by flipper in

jw
friends

well it's been about 2 to 3 months since i did a thread like this , so how have you all been doing in life?

relax , pull up a chair and your favorite cocktail , and tell me your problems - or at least how life is treating you.

we can make this a humorous thread or it can be serious , it's up to you.

GoddessRachel

Thanks, FlyingHighNow. You are such a sweet person. And you are spot on with your advice. I hope for the best for you and Julian. Goodnight.

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Your Pretend Shrink is Back - Share Your Problems - I'll Help if I Can

by flipper in

jw
friends

well it's been about 2 to 3 months since i did a thread like this , so how have you all been doing in life?

relax , pull up a chair and your favorite cocktail , and tell me your problems - or at least how life is treating you.

we can make this a humorous thread or it can be serious , it's up to you.

GoddessRachel

Hey, did the shrink abandon his own thread? I just get glossed over by posters like no one sees me here. Was this a trick, Flipper? That's not very nice. Or do you only help people selectively, or that you "know"?

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Does anyone else notice?...

by still_in74 in

i started this in another thread but i think it deserves its own......... does anyone else notice, that as they see the wt for what it is, the wt articles seem to not actually "teach" anything anymore?

- it just seems to constanly preach over and over to not listen to apostates, not listen to news/internet/documentaries, not listen to anything critical of the org.

just to read the bible and "by extension" bible-based literature.

GoddessRachel

Still In, Then GET OUT. Do what you have to do to get out. It's not too late. You still have the rest of your life, and you can have your dignity too, not living a lie.

Maybe we're working! We've put them on the defensive. I know that everything I emailed to my dad last year, he responded with 'is that from the internet?' There's real fear there, placed by the WTS.

I email my JW family interesting articles about JW's that I find online, and they never respond to them. Not negative things about JW's mind you. Positive things. To test the waters. But they are so scared of what the internet has to say that even if I mention it to them, as in "did you get my email?", they just want to change the subject FAST. It's CRAZY! My mother recently told me when the Memorial is, and when I said "I know," she was shocked that I would know. When she asked how I knew, I told her it's all over the internet. There was this long silence. I asked her if that upset her, and she said she was just surprised. It's so weird. The WTS has complete control of so many JW's minds, and it's so weird and obvious to those of us who are free!

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Your Pretend Shrink is Back - Share Your Problems - I'll Help if I Can

by flipper in

jw
friends

well it's been about 2 to 3 months since i did a thread like this , so how have you all been doing in life?

relax , pull up a chair and your favorite cocktail , and tell me your problems - or at least how life is treating you.

we can make this a humorous thread or it can be serious , it's up to you.

GoddessRachel

OK, Pretend Shrink Flipper, which problem should I inundate you with...?

How about: my boyfriend is so busy with his work he doesn't have time for me anymore and it makes me resent him and our relationship? I am afraid I'm trying too hard to please him and be a part of his life, like stopping in to see him at work, and bringing him food (we live together but I only see him to sleep if I don't stop by and see him at work). I wish I had more of my own life, but I don't, because I was too busy nurturing - or trying to nurture - our relationship, and be supportive to his goals. We haven't had sex in nearly two weeks! And that is really hard for me. What is wrong with us? How do I not be so clingy but still show I'm supportive? (I feel like I'm being clingy, but if I don't stop in and see him at work, he'll say how he wishes I would stop by and see him. So it's hard to have my own life when I'm either at my job or trying to make time to hang out at his work.) And man, I just want some nookie. He says he is too exhausted from work to have sex right now, but I think he's damaging our bond by refusing sex! Plus I know he still looks at internet porn, which I find offensive when he won't even give me any. Is our relationship on the rocks?

If that one is too hard, how about this: I love to talk to my mother. But I have to endure JW lectures every time I talk to her. I don't want to completely cut her off, so I try to not be confrontational and avoid any answers to her questions that might be too upsetting. Is this lying to my mother? I try to also not give her false hope, so when she says things about me being a Witness again, I tell her I don't think that is going to happen. I know it hurts her when I say that, but I think it would hurt her more to allow her to believe it's a possibility. I then say things like "there is hope that our family will be reunited again" which in her mind means I might be a JW again, but what I mean is that we can still learn how to love each other unconditionally. So I feel like I'm giving her a more realistic hope. What do you think about this? Do you think I'm deceiving my mother? Am I being selfish to talk to her, knowing I'm not coming back to "the truth"?

Thanks for listening,

Rachel

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exjw in court

by jacethespace in

accused blames his bad behaviour on his jehovahs witness mother abandoning him.. http://news.smh.com.au/victim-sobs-as-rock-thrower-apologises/20080228-1vij.html.

goes and breaks into a kingdom hall..

GoddessRachel

One has to take responsibility for one's own actions. Blaming it on your past Jehovah's Witness upbringing doesn't cut it with me. No one made him do it but himself.

I agree wholeheartedly. The main thing we have to learn as exJW's is that WE (not Satan the Devil or anyone else) are personally responsible for our actions. Not all exJW's learn this, and it's sad. We can't go around blaming our JW families for our own actions. Would we want them to blame us for their crazy actions, because we "left them" and "abandoned Jehovah"? Thanks for the links, Jace. Peace, Rachel

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