Posts by ProdigalSon

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What is a false prophet?

by Spade in

if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

Cameron's work is great, but he himself is still captive of a concept: That there is a personal God in the sky who actually has "prophets". So there are no "true prophets" either. There are only psychics, seers, and human channelers, and they work within the laws that were REQUIRED to be put in place by the Creator God, who is not the "Most High". The Divine Spark that sets humans apart from everything else is the only piece of God that we have to work with. Everything else is the shadow of the reality. Since "God" is evolving just as we are, it has no idea which path we are going to take, so "prophecies" are dependent on whether or not we want to fulfill them.

We are co-creators that were put here to fix an imperfect world, not squatters living on a planet that we screwed up after it was given to us in "perfect" condition. That is the BIG LIE of the Bible.

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IF J.W. are genuine christians

by bobld in

jw
friends

why do they need to wear a badge to a d.c.?.

should not their love be so noticeable that an observer would know that they are true followers of christ.or is their love lacking that they need a badge to identify who they are.. b.

ProdigalSon

Because they're paranoid of infiltrators and spies?

Because they want to know who is in "good standing" and who is DF'd?

Just guessing.....

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Paul, leading authority on Christianity, does NOT quote Jesus!

by Terry in

paul's letters practically invent christianity.. the gospels trickled in after him.. paul never walked with jesus and yet explains him.. never a quote from the master at all.. yet, paul is such a maven.. if jesus couldn't be bothered to actually reveal what he was all about to his apostles with whom he ate, drank, spoke and slept---why this persecutor, saul?.

the apostles heard every word jesus spoke and were willing to die for him.. paul didn't--yet--miraculously explained every detail of the entire history of god's purpose including his messiah.. .

can anybody provide a non-gimmick answer?.

ProdigalSon

Many people seem to be under the misconception that gnosticism is some sort of religion. Granted, there have been some bad-ass gnostics, and even the Illuminati can be called gnostics, but it is not some defined dogmatic set of doctrines. It simply means that knowledge comes from within. In the case of Paul, I can give you two examples of why I say he was a gnostic, within a couple of verses of each other. In Galatians 4:19, he states that "Christ is formed in you". In verse 24, he unambiguously states that the entire story of Hagar, Sarah, and the "Jerusalem above", who is our "Mother".....

.....is an ALLEGORY!!!!

This is pure gnosticism!

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Paul, leading authority on Christianity, does NOT quote Jesus!

by Terry in

paul's letters practically invent christianity.. the gospels trickled in after him.. paul never walked with jesus and yet explains him.. never a quote from the master at all.. yet, paul is such a maven.. if jesus couldn't be bothered to actually reveal what he was all about to his apostles with whom he ate, drank, spoke and slept---why this persecutor, saul?.

the apostles heard every word jesus spoke and were willing to die for him.. paul didn't--yet--miraculously explained every detail of the entire history of god's purpose including his messiah.. .

can anybody provide a non-gimmick answer?.

ProdigalSon

Paul the Gnostic Feminist

http://www.lost-history.com/paul.php

Saint Paul and the Apostolic Tradition Part I

http://www.aeonbytegnosticradio.com/2010/03/st-paul-and-apostolic-tradition-part-i.html

Saint Paul and the Apsotolic Tradition Part II

http://www.aeonbytegnosticradio.com/2010/03/st-paul-and-apostolic-tradition-part-ii.html

Saint Paul and the Apostolic Tradition Part III

http://www.aeonbytegnosticradio.com/2010/03/st-paul-and-apostolic-tradition-part.html

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Paul, leading authority on Christianity, does NOT quote Jesus!

by Terry in

paul's letters practically invent christianity.. the gospels trickled in after him.. paul never walked with jesus and yet explains him.. never a quote from the master at all.. yet, paul is such a maven.. if jesus couldn't be bothered to actually reveal what he was all about to his apostles with whom he ate, drank, spoke and slept---why this persecutor, saul?.

the apostles heard every word jesus spoke and were willing to die for him.. paul didn't--yet--miraculously explained every detail of the entire history of god's purpose including his messiah.. .

can anybody provide a non-gimmick answer?.

ProdigalSon

The web has become rife with Christians who have recognized Paul as a false apostle. The real problem is, they have no idea that early Christians were gnostics. Paul was definitely a gnostic. He states at Colossians 1:23 that this "good news" had already been "preached in all creation that is under heaven". Clearly then, he could not have had Jesus the man in mind, but Jesus the Christ....the Cosmic Christ of myth.

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Who cares about Jesus?

by brotherdan in

one thing that initially disturbed me when i was questioning the organization was their lack of focus on jesus.

whether you believe in him or not, you have to admit that jws focus mainly on jehovah and his organization.

to the apostles their entire message was about jesus.

ProdigalSon

The Watchtower is a FEAR-based cult, and the Father-God of the New Testament just didn't cut the mustard when it comes to FEAR. So, what the Watchtower has done is resurrect the Old Testament Warmonger God, the one who goes on destructive rampages every now and then when you rub him the wrong way. Even when he's not annihilating anything, he's threatening to. The one who sits on his throne keeping track of how many hours each dub spends praising his name, even putting the name in the New Testament where it has no place.

I believe that one of the main reasons why Jesus came to earth was to expose the God of Israel as a demiurge. That's why they have no use for Jesus. The Black Mass Memorial should be proof enough for anybody how much they despise him. They KNOW that the Watchtower God is not the Father that Jesus said sent him. "The world has not known you."

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Just Checking in Update :

by oldflame in

many things have been happening in my life, it surely has been one hell of a trip let me tell you.. my youngest son is now baptised in the troof, and he is so brain washed it is pathetic.

i try to show him where and how to find out about their lie and he acts just like a typical witness.

sad so freaking sad and it really pisses me off but what can i do now ?

ProdigalSon

I have given up the ghost hunting, someone pointed out Duet. 18, 10-12 . After reading it I immediately shut everything down.

Even if SOME of the Old Testament was EVER the "Word of God", that passage in Deuteronomy certainly is not.....

http://www.jesusbelievesinevolution.com/ezra_heretic.htm

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What is a false prophet?

by Spade in

if jehovahs witnesses are false-prophets, who can we look to as a prophet(s)?.

http://www.watchtower21.org/2011/01/what-is-false-prophet.html.

a false prophet as described in the old testament under the mosaic law covenant:.

ProdigalSon

I think we would have to define "prophet" before we can define a false one.

Dictionary.com says:

–noun 1. a person who speaks for god or a deity, or by divine inspiration. 2. (in the Old Testament) a. a person chosen to speak for God and to guide the people of Israel: Moses was the greatest of Old Testament prophets. b. ( often initial capital letter ) one of the Major or Minor Prophets. c. one of a band of ecstatic visionaries claiming divine inspiration and, according to popular belief, possessing magical powers. d. a person who practices divination. 3. one of a class of p ersons in the early church, next in order after the apostles, recognized as inspired to utter special revelations and predictions. 1 Cor. 12:28. 4. the Prophet, Muhammad, the founder of Islam. 5. a person regarded as, or claiming to be, an inspired teacher or leader. 6. a person who foretells or predicts what is to come: a weather prophet; prophets of doom. 7. a spokesperson of some doctrine, cause, or movement. So we see here, starting with the primary definition, that the word itself is very subjective and makes many assumption. We would first have to define "God" or the nature of this "deity". Is it a personal "God"? Then, we would have to define "inspired". It's also interesting that the second definition is specific to the Old Testament God. A "prophet" is very simply a psychic or seer, so imo, the definition here that best defines a "prophet" would be 2-d.... one who practices divination.... by whatever means.... crystal balls, reading palms, reading stars, reading ass livers, or reading the Akashic Record. Personally, I like the Akashic Record explanation ..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akashic_records ...because it is a concept that goes hand in hand with the time-space continuum theory.... http://www.west.net/~ke6jqp/spacetime/spacetime.html So basically, "prophets" are psychics who have peered into the future to see the most likely events, and those visions are not cast in stone, otherwise we would not have free will. And without free will, we cannot evolve. We can only follow a pre-determined program.

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bologna

by TheLoveDoctor in

what do you call this.

there is clearly a distinction between the inspired writings of the bible and other writings that, while manifesting a measure of the spirits direction and guidance, are not properly classed with the sacred scriptures.

as has been shown, in addition to the canonical books of the hebrew scriptures, there were other writings, such as official records concerning the kings of judah and israel, and these, in many cases, may have been drawn up by men devoted to god.

ProdigalSon

I love the term Nate Merritt (who wrote "Jehovah Unmasked") came up with for this idea that the New Testament canon was miraculously transferred from the Apostles down to the ROMAN CHURCH (LOL!!) in the 8th century AD (or later!) ......

Spiritual Osmosis.....

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Would The Witnesses Be Happy To See You Come Back to The Kingdom Hall?

by minimus in

jw
friends

would you get a huge response if you ever went back to the hall?.

would nobody care?

?.

ProdigalSon

They would be THRILLED to SEE me, but as soon as I open my mouth, they would scatter like cucarachas when the light comes on.....