Happy Dad ... why am I not surprised that you attack the person and not the subject at hand?
Could be .. you really can't back up your frail position?
Rose
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
Happy Dad ... why am I not surprised that you attack the person and not the subject at hand?
Could be .. you really can't back up your frail position?
Rose
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
jouney-on ... I do not mean to belabour this but ... since your brother was df'd , I sumise that he was not repentant. If he was he would have been reproved and thus not lose any of the fellowship he so desperatly needed. Am I right? If I am ... he jerked the safety net out himself ... right?
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
keyser ... as for my thoughts on this ... I think we all make our choices and have to take responsibility for them They say there is a genetic disposition for alcoholism ... so this young man may have been heading that way anyway.
I do not agree that being raised JW or Catholic or Baptist is an excuse for any bad behavour. Get a grip ... everyone ... let's all own up to our responsibilities ... quit blaming someone else!
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
journey-on ... I see this is a subject that is close to you. It is to me too. I understand your thoughts, especially since it involves your brother. Growing up as a JW though, he knew the consequences. At 17 he was fully able to understand the end results and decided to defy the edict.
You and I both know that he could have gone for reinstatement if it bothered him so much. Let's put the onus on the real perpetator. Shunning, most definitely is hard to take ... for anyone ... young or old. It's not like the JWs dreamed it up ... it IS scriptural.
Don't make the mistake of blaming one entity for the wrongs another gets involved in. This sort of reminds me of Adam blaming his eating of the fruit ... because of this woman you gave me. Come on!!! Let's truly take responsibility.
My brother was not raised as a JW but is a raving alcoholic ... how are you going to twist that around to who's to blame. Could just be my brother's fault and choice. I love my brother but see him as making his own choices ... but he will give you umpteen reasons for his failure.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
Stench ... I mean Trench ... I see being 'away' hasn't deepened your intellect. I guess you would consider the MT dense ... lol.
WTWizard ... if you read the initial post here you will see the young man was df'd for relations with a person of the oposite sex before marriage.
Now how do yo wrap your reasoning around that ... likely that the experience drove him to drink but only because of his terrible witness upbringing ... there I've helped you out tremendously.
Rose
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
imho ... hs ... oh forget it. I was going to give you a put down like I did before but likely your ego couldn't take it at your age ... Rose
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
sankes::
I'm not interested in giving you a tongue lashing. I responded to an inept posting by (ironically) Happy Dad.
Instead of jumping down my throat, did you ever consider reading my post and actually giving it some real thought?
I'm not unreasonable to state that HD is WRONG. He IS wrong.
Growing up as a JW does not predispose one to alcoholism.
This young man's father does not deserve to go to jail because of his son's errors.
If you can refute my statements .. go ahead.
Don't just come on here blathering about inane things that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.
Rose
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
josie ... stick to what you understand ... the fluff topics ... Rose :)
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-flbblackledge0824nbaug24,0,7357675,print.story.
when glenn blackledge violated his probation on super bowl sunday, he ran out of second chances.. .
police found him slumped over the wheel of his still-running truck in a coral springs parking lot, reeking of alcohol.. ---snip---.
Happy Dad:
I've read a lot of trash on this site but yours beats all.
"an indoctrinated life as a JW's son .... instead of trying to escape with too much alchohol."
By your standard : ONES RAISED AS JW"s WILL END UP ALCOHOLICS BECAUSE THEY ARE ESCAPING A TERRIBLE LIFE .......... GET REAL!!! HAS BEING AN APOSTATE SO FERMENTED YOUR BRAIN THAT THIS HOW YOU SEE EVERYTHING?
GUESS YOU NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE NOT RAISED AS A WITNESS MISUSING ALCOHOL?
AND TO TOP IT OFF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE HIS FATHER AND "OTHERS" GO TO JAIL TOO!!!
YOU ARE A REAL PIECE OF WORK!!!!
folks i know what it was like to be raised in this religion, but i never knew what it was like to be a convert.
lately i have come in contact with some jw's, they know nothing about my background.
i have asked them so very tricky questions, and they have flat out bare faced lied.
Are you conscious of what a conscience is? Rose .... :)