I stopped giving monney at least 3 years ago. I feel forced to be a JW. So why would I give any penny. I know I'm not the only one.
StephaneLaliberte
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Donations aren't coming in from Western Countries: more confirmation
by Julia Orwell inin talking to sparky the elder today (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/263862/1/an-elder-called-me-hes-waking-up-and-knew-id-understand-nice-for-him-to-have-a-friend) i found out he did the accounts for our congregation for years.
he said very rarely did the congregation meet its expenses without some well-off brother chipping in a few grand here and there.
the elders would also make up the shortfall.
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Not Forsaking Christian Gatherings
by StephaneLaliberte inat the meeting this week, there was a part about placing our trust in jehovah and not worrying about food and shelter (mat 6:33).
the part was based on the 2013 yearbook p138 and 139 where there were two examples:.
a family went to their convention leaving their chickens unattended for a number of days, worried about if they would survive.
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StephaneLaliberte
They didn't say the total number of chicken they had in the first place. If they had 25 or 2000; who knows?
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Not Forsaking Christian Gatherings
by StephaneLaliberte inat the meeting this week, there was a part about placing our trust in jehovah and not worrying about food and shelter (mat 6:33).
the part was based on the 2013 yearbook p138 and 139 where there were two examples:.
a family went to their convention leaving their chickens unattended for a number of days, worried about if they would survive.
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StephaneLaliberte
At the meeting this week, there was a part about placing our trust in Jehovah and not worrying about food and shelter (Mat 6:33). The part was based on the 2013 Yearbook p138 and 139 where there were two examples:
- A family went to their convention leaving their chickens unattended for a number of days, worried about if they would survive. Turns out 19 were missing when they came back. Yet, they ended up reproducing more than the neighbors that year end had more chicken than expected.
- Another family didn’t have anything to eat and caught nothing fishing. At the end of the day, they decided to still go at their meeting. After the meeting, turns out that some wind scared the fishes toward their fishing area and they caught fishes using a basket!
What caught my attention is that the first example would be considered animal cruelty in Canada. You can’t just leave farm animals unattended.
As for the second example, wouldn’t it bring shame upon the brothers and sisters in that congregation for not sharing anything to eat with the poor family? What about the example set out by the first Christians helping the brothers and sisters in Jerusalem for basic food (Act 6:1 - 3)? And if the brother was too proud to ask for help at his congregation... then, could we still say he placed his entire confidence in Jehovah?
Finally, why do they equal attending ALLthe meetings with putting your trust in Jehovah? I can’t see the connection.
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Can a JW sell to a church?
by StephaneLaliberte inhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/manukau-courier/9124458/witnesses-sell-elim-buys.
i noticed that the bethel of new zealand has been sold to another church.
could an individual jw business owner do that?.
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StephaneLaliberte
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/manukau-courier/9124458/Witnesses-sell-Elim-buys
I noticed that the bethel of New Zealand has been sold to another church. Could an individual JW business owner do that?
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How to Record a Judicial Meeting
by 00DAD inintroduction: this subject came up on another thread and seemed important enough to justify its own thread:.
judicial hearing procedure, chapter 7. recording devices.
"recording devices should not be allowed.
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StephaneLaliberte
If I refuse to have a JC that is not recorded, will they go ahead and disfellowship me by having a JC in my absence?
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JWs and FaceBook
by cognac inare they allowed to vomit all their jw crap everywhere on fb?
i know they aren't supposed to have jw forums so i figured the same would apply to fb but not sure.. if there are any references, that would be great.
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StephaneLaliberte
Facebook is a platform to share your passions and key events with your friends and family. Therefore, I would not expect any less from Jehovah’s Witness who are truly into their religion. You don’t have to read their stuff… you can simply delete them. That’s what I did with most of my JW friends.
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Can't be myself
by StephaneLaliberte in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:hyphenationzone>21</w:hyphenationzone> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>fr</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>x-none</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:dontvertaligncellwithsp /> <w:dontbreakconstrainedforcedtables /> <w:dontvertalignintxbx /> <w:word11kerningpairs /> <w:cachedcolbalance /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val="--" /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!
[endif]i had a diner with the neighbors... they don't know i'm a jw cause i don't tell people anymore about it.
somehow, the topic of cults came up and one of my neighbors said that the jw require 10% of their income to go to the church.
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@Zound
"The truth is damning enough - no need to support exagerations."
Well said!
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Can't be myself
by StephaneLaliberte in[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:worddocument> <w:view>normal</w:view> <w:zoom>0</w:zoom> <w:trackmoves /> <w:trackformatting /> <w:hyphenationzone>21</w:hyphenationzone> <w:punctuationkerning /> <w:validateagainstschemas /> <w:saveifxmlinvalid>false</w:saveifxmlinvalid> <w:ignoremixedcontent>false</w:ignoremixedcontent> <w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext>false</w:alwaysshowplaceholdertext> <w:donotpromoteqf /> <w:lidthemeother>fr</w:lidthemeother> <w:lidthemeasian>x-none</w:lidthemeasian> <w:lidthemecomplexscript>x-none</w:lidthemecomplexscript> <w:compatibility> <w:breakwrappedtables /> <w:snaptogridincell /> <w:wraptextwithpunct /> <w:useasianbreakrules /> <w:dontgrowautofit /> <w:splitpgbreakandparamark /> <w:dontvertaligncellwithsp /> <w:dontbreakconstrainedforcedtables /> <w:dontvertalignintxbx /> <w:word11kerningpairs /> <w:cachedcolbalance /> </w:compatibility> <w:browserlevel>microsoftinternetexplorer4</w:browserlevel> <m:mathpr> <m:mathfont m:val="cambria math" /> <m:brkbin m:val="before" /> <m:brkbinsub m:val="--" /> <m:smallfrac m:val="off" /> <m:dispdef /> <m:lmargin m:val="0" /> <m:rmargin m:val="0" /> <m:defjc m:val="centergroup" /> <m:wrapindent m:val="1440" /> <m:intlim m:val="subsup" /> <m:narylim m:val="undovr" /> </m:mathpr></w:worddocument> </xml><!
[endif]i had a diner with the neighbors... they don't know i'm a jw cause i don't tell people anymore about it.
somehow, the topic of cults came up and one of my neighbors said that the jw require 10% of their income to go to the church.
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I had a diner with the neighbors... they don't know I'm a JW cause I don't tell people anymore about it. Somehow, the topic of cults came up and one of my neighbors said that the JW require 10% of their income to go to the church.
I believe in factual truth, I don’t care if I don’t like the JW anymore, making up falsehood is even concerning your worst enemy is wrong. JW don’t give 10%.
So I told her that I've known some witnesses and that I had never heard of such practice. Yet, my neighbor insisted as if it was a fact. “Oh yeah, I know for a fact!”
Right then, I realized I couldn’t be myself. I felt forced to let the topic go as it could compromise my position. I can’t say: “I used to be a JW” or “I’m not a JW” for fear she would tell somebody that came to her door. I’m in a prison made of glass where my expression of my thought and even faith is control by a religion I don’t even feel like I belong to.
So why am I still a JW? The shun policy. Am I a coward or am I simply choosing my battles? Anyways… a slow fade seems like the solution for right now.
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New Rooming Arrangement for some district conventions in the UK - what are they up to?
by 88JM inso i missed this letter below being read out last week - i got a look at it from the notice board this week.. from what i heard, this announcement was not received entirely positively as such, but there were apparently one or two for who this is a bit annoying.. staying at hotels for the district convention is nothing new here - many are used to staying at the same hotel/b&b/campsite every year, and get quite friendly with the owners.
but this year, it looks like not only do we have a new location for our district assembly (glasgow - the s.e.c.c.?
) but we are being told what hotel to stay at, supposedly to make things cheaper.. what i can't understand is, if this is really for the benefit of people, why didn't they do this years ago?
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I think my wife is going to open the can of worms...
by sosoconfused inso over the last 5 - 7 months as some may know i have resigned as an elder and just came to a cold stop going to the meetings.
brothers call i wont answer the phone.
if they come by i just wont answer the door.
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StephaneLaliberte
Yeah, I don't bother making up stories for missed meetings anymore. I since then noticed that they stoped asking.
"We haven't seen you in a while, how have you been doing?"
"I've been great! Thanks for asking!"
"You haven't been here often though"
"Well, my objective is to be here at least twice a month, If I can reach that goal, then, I'll be happy"
As long as you look very happy, they don't bother you.