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  We pray for the governing body

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since when has it become cool to pray for the gb?

  i noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves.

  i means, i grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and i don't remember this being always in the payers.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  Thinking about this further, I do remember hearing "We pray for the bethel family" often in the prayers when I was a kid (back in the 80s/90s). From what I can tell, it is only recent that they shifted this to the Governing Body (GB), which makes it so much more cultish!
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  JW earworms

  by neat blue dog in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you ever find yourself starting to hum a jw tune subconsciously?

  several times while driving alone i started singing one of them, and then i get to an offensive lyric which jolts me 'awake', and i say something to myself like 'no!

  if anybody heard they'd think i was a few bricks shy of a load 😆.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  I left 5 years ago and still have those moments where I hum some of their songs. Some of these songs will send me straight into feelings of anger and rage as they are strongly linked to particular moments of my life where the JWs destroyed my family.

  On the other hand, there are some other melodies that I still appreciate for its artistic value in the same way I appreciate Catholic Churches while disagreeing with the teachings. Or an appreciation similar to my love for the movie “The 10 Commandments” while I certainly don’t believe any of it.

  Of course, I guess this is also due to the fact that I already forgot the lyrics! I don’t believe that any of the lyrics produced by the JWs are strong enough to appeal to me even on a purely artistic level.
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  head coverings

  by loveforgod in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi there i am not a jw but i am having bible study.

  i came to christianity a few months before and i was searching for the right path.

  one of the things god spoke to me about and directed me in was to do away with all the vanity that was in me and now i wear the head covering and the modest dresses.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  while I don’t believe in head covers, there is nothing in the bible against it. Interesting question indeed.
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  We pray for the governing body

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since when has it become cool to pray for the gb?

  i noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves.

  i means, i grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and i don't remember this being always in the payers.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  Since when has it become cool to pray for the GB? I noticed that at the begining of my fade back in 2015, it had already been there for a good while and was already getting on my nerves. I don't know if it was always there, or was it?

  I means, I grew up in it, but can't remember much further than the 90s and I don't remember this being always in the payers. "We pray that you help the GB as the give us food at the proper time".

  I remember, towards the end, I was hearing it often, even at weddings and funerals. was it simply because I was more alert or was it not as bad as it has become?
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  Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the montana case enters the home stretch.

  the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).

  an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).

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  JC323: here is a new catholic policy that if a priest confesses to another priest in the confession, that it must be reported to the archdiocese.

  Yeah, that sucks... if they are to report to anyone else, including the archdiocese, then why not the police as well?
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  Montana Supreme Court will hear the $35M case tomorrow

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the montana case enters the home stretch.

  the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).

  an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).

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  I listened to the video yesterday and I must say... looks like the court is scared of impeding over religious freedom. Yes, religious freedom is very important, but to the extent that they can deliberately keep silent about pedophiles? Really?

  To me, the clergy rule works only in the context of how it is applied by the Catholics. A pedophile goes to see a priest in the secret of confession and gets advices from the priest who will not retaliate and won’t share the story with anyone, including other priests. This procedure is meant to provide spiritual guidance to someone that, otherwise, would have none. Without this guaranty of absolute secrecy, the sinner/criminal will never confess and will loose on the opportunity of receiving valuable advices. It’s similar to a shrink. In fact, most priest actually go through university studies, crossing over into psychology, specifically for this purpose.

  Jehovah's Witnesses is not about this concept. People who confess to an elder will land in a judicial committee. Along the way, details of the confession will be shared with various stakeholders. In this context, what is the incentive for a criminal/sinner to confess? Considering he will have religious consequences, why not add legal as well? This scenario should not be protected. However, the court seems to be afraid of defining the limits of the proper scenarios and I would not be surprised to find that this will go nowhere.

  If the JWs win this particular battle, politicians will need to pass laws that are more precise.
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  Question from yesterdays persecution article...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are you resolved to do if under ban?.

  i wonder how many people were thinking about how that would be a great excuse to leave!

  finally, a good out, you were just too afraid of the persecution.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  While I don't believe in JW, I am even more against the concept of government persecuting people for their beliefs. I would never, ever collaborate with the government to turn in peoples.

  And yet, depending on the circumstances, I could potentially make an exception for elders and higher ups. These man bully people and deny freedom of religion by enforcing the shunning practice and hunting down any one second guessing their authority. Why should they expect the right to freedom of religion when they deny this very right to people under their authority?
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  News report - Montana Supreme Court Hearing: Silent No More: The Justices (Silent Part 4)

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.wlwt.com/article/silent-no-more-part-4-the-justices/29040023?fbclid=iwar1beverlfko8g4lz5hbsize6dl1b87ukfabevyv07iizgziawzq1gfvevu .

  silent no more: the justices.

  jehovah’s witnesses argue montana supreme court justices should overturn $35 million verdict—largest in u.s.. mark albert .

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  StephaneLaliberte

  If for whatever reason the victim told an elder first, then I agree that that elder should report it (especially if it was mandatory law to do so, which is why all states should all have such laws) but if an elder was not told first, then whoever was/is should be the one/s to do so.

  If the parents tell the Elders and no one tells the police, all of them, the parents and the elders should face legal concequences for not reporting.
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  News report - Montana Supreme Court Hearing: Silent No More: The Justices (Silent Part 4)

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.wlwt.com/article/silent-no-more-part-4-the-justices/29040023?fbclid=iwar1beverlfko8g4lz5hbsize6dl1b87ukfabevyv07iizgziawzq1gfvevu .

  silent no more: the justices.

  jehovah’s witnesses argue montana supreme court justices should overturn $35 million verdict—largest in u.s.. mark albert .

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  StephaneLaliberte

  I have not heard a JW ever say that their car was stolen or bike was stolen or house was broken into...so they are going to an elder to tell him. No, they go straight to the police, so why when abused not go straight to police?

  Because they know who did it. If they knew that another JW stole their car or bike or broke into their home, they would first go to the Elders. Not the police.
  
  
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  FAKE-NEWS.JW.ORG

  by lastmanstanding in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the current “news” on jw.borg.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/legal/.

  look closely at he picture of “russian” police breaking in to what appears to be a utility shed.. first, you’d have to be a complete moron to believe anything you see.. the “police” are shown using a garden pic to open a door.

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  StephaneLaliberte

  You're calling out a story that is older than a year... sorry, but seems like the russian website doesn't go back that far.